-20 and did I hurt my 2210?

   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #21  
jdbower said:
Wind chill is kind of complicated, it's designed to estimate the "feel" of the effective temperature to human skin based on the ambient temperature and the wind speed. This involves two processes - one is that evaporation of liquids will suck the energy out of a system (it's an endothermic process) and makes it colder. Unless you've installed sweat glands in your tractor this is not likely to be a factor :)

However, anything that radiates heat will tend to build a "thermal boundary layer" around itself - this is true for warm-blooded critters like us people or for engines. This barrier allows the temperatures to increase faster, but a strong wind will blow it away. As an example of this, disconnect your radiator fan in the summer. The heat will build up because there's no "wind chill" to blow away the boundary layer.

In short, you're both right. Tractors are indeed affected by wind chill because a thermal boundary layer would allow the engine to reach a viable operating temperature much faster. However, the exact value of the wind chill is pretty meaningless when you're comparing something made from metal and plastic vs. something made of flesh and blood. You can make this point moot by blocking all air circulation around the tractor, wrapping it in moving blankets and stretch wrap will help it warm up faster but you'd look awful silly...

Of course, this only applies to something that's radiating heat, a tractor that's parked in the wind will be the same temperature as a tractor that's shielded from the wind. But don't discount fluid dynamics, strong winds will change the way air is introduced into the engine. In some cases it may force more air in like a supercharger, in others it will reduce the pressure and make the engine work harder for air.

I still think the best solution is to just avoid those temperatures altogether - I need to turn up the thermostat when I read these threads!
Well said! A factual reply. Anyway, I apologize for throwing this thread off track...I take back everything I said.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210?
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#22  
ChuckinNH said:
Egon, probably if we put an indoor / outdoor thermometer in our unheated sheds we would find that the temperature inside was just a bit warmer than outside. The end result, of course, is the same.
As a matter of fact my car is equiped with a thermometer. The readout always drops at least ten degrees and as much as 20 degrees after backing out of my unheated and uninsulated garage with the difference depending on how much wind is blowing and infiltrating the garage doors. Even a car is happier indoors than out. My theory is that a small amount of heat from the earth radiates up through the garage floor and trapped by the walls. Even frozen ground at 32 degrees is warmer than -20. Windchill is a measurement of how a human perceives the cold but wind can only chill an object to ambient temperature.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #23  
Try running the John Deere Plus 50 Synthetic 0w40 oil. Supposed to be approved for year-around use. I use it in my Gator HPX diesel and it really helps cold starts when it's a frigid 25 deg!
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #24  
jdl said:
Not to sound like I'm bragging or anything but -20 is nothing. When we had our last snowstorm go through we had windchills of -50 howling. Stupid old me sitting on the 2320 trying to blow out the major drift out of the driveway so I could park the van. Move to Canada anyone?


He said -20F, that equals -29C, which is cold.

Hurry up spring.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #25  
WilliamBos said:
He said -20F, that equals -29C, which is cold.

Hurry up spring.[/QUOTE
Just an interesting side note, here in Manitoba on Sunday morning it was -40C which by the way is -40F. Now THAT is cold. Still made it to church tho. lol.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #26  
Well said jdbower. I actually understood what you said! :D You kind of reminded me of my thermodynamics professor from the early 70's. I just hope you don't decide to give us a test!:eek: I can only remember 90% of it now. 80%.....70% Oh how I hate getting old.....60%.....now what was the topic?:rolleyes:

Going into West Virginia tomorrow snow skiing. Hope they don't have any of that "wind chill" stuff there!

50%...oh well
 

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