Bird
Rest in Peace
I've seen several people do it during our qualifications, but most were like me, we could get on the paper, but not much else. Our 25 yard course, if I remember correctly was 15 rounds in two minutes; seems like a lot of time until you do it.
One of my Officers was complaining about her gun a S&W 649 being "off", so I took it home and shot it from a rest. It was dead on and I got good groups at 25 yards, but it was not time and from a rest. I am not a really good shot, so pretty much all my guns will outshoot my skill level.
On our qualifying, you start with the gun holstered, first is 5 rounds in 15 seconds from 25 yards, then 5 rounds in 10 seconds from 15 yards, then 15 rounds from 7 yards, but it's 3 turns of the target, 5 rounds each turn in 8 seconds, (you do not have to holster the weapon between turns, but if you have to reload, that's your problem; no extra time allowed), then 5 rounds strong hand only in 8 seconds from 3 yards, transfer weapon to the other hand and 5 rounds weak hand only in 8 seconds. And finally, back to the 7 yard line and 15 rounds in 23 seconds. Active duty officers are only allowed 5 rounds per magazine for this last 15 rounds, so they have to do a "combat reload" twice. Retirees are allowed to have 7 per magazine, so we only have to change magazines once. And when you're shooting a revolver, you need 2 speed loaders, because you only have the same amount of time as officers shooting semi-autos.
As for a gun being off . . . for awhile I would have sworn my Sig P229DAK 9 mm sights were off because of shooting low right, especially at 25 yards, and on a practice range with no time restraints for either shooting or reloading, I shoot a better score with a 2" S&W Chief than I do with the Sig. But I've let a couple of pros shoot the Sig at 20 feet and 30 feet and they convinced me it has to be me instead of the gun.:laughing: So, like you, my guns will outshoot my skill level.