2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems

   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #41  
There is no way GM or Dodge diesels have more problems than Ford 6L or the Ford 6.4L like I have. No way.

Dodge has had their fair share of problems. The older trucks like a 01 you were doing good to get 20K out of a set of front brakes. The transmissions were junk too, I know a guy who is on his 4th trans with 150k on the truck he doesn't tow that much. I guess that is why you see so many manual trans Dodges. The 98-07 Chevy's had alot of problems. The gauge clusters were junk. The Front wheel bearing/ hub assembly you are doing good to 100k out of them. The flywheels still crack in the gasser. The transfer case has a anti-rattle clip that breaks and knock a hole through it and ruins it. The fuel pump on the gasser. The steering bumps when you turn it after you get some miles on the truck on you have to grease a plastic bushing under the dash. The brake lines rust up, and the tailgate straps break.

You just hear more out of Ford because there are more, they have been the best selling truck for 35 years. Now with the internets you don't have to look to far for anybody to be having a problem with anything.

I think that this could be a little misleading to a certain extent. I think that there are a couple of reasons why Ford sold more diesels than the competition, and it's not necessarily because they are a better diesel. First off is that for a number of years Ford had the only truck on the market that had enough front axle capacity to allow a diesel engine and a 9 foot plow. So if you wanted a 9 foot plow AND a diesel your only manufacturer recommended option was Ford.

Secondly, and I think perhaps even more importantly is the fact that GM and Dodge had better non diesel engine options on their heavy duty trucks. While I'll admit that the V10 in the Ford was a great engine, a lot of people were scared (probably unnecessarily) about feeding 10 cylinders worth of fuel. The 5.4 V8 is a great half ton truck engine, but it's a lousy 3/4 and 1 ton truck engine, especially when you've got the heaviest rolling chassis on the market. I'm not saying that the 6.0 V8 in the GM's or the 5.7 Hemi are awesome in heavy duty pickups but they are in my opinion at least adequate whereas the 5.4 is not, and I say this as someone who has spent a lot of time driving each of those gas motors. So when you consider that Ford didn't even make a lot of V10's and the 5.4 is pretty underpowered in the Super Duties (especially the 2v motors) then you're pretty much left with owning a diesel if you want to get a Super Duty, which unquestionably led the pack in heavy duty pickups for a long time.

Lastly I would note that GM and Dodge 3/4 and 1 ton trucks were styled very similarly to their half ton counterparts, whereas the Ford Super Duty is styled completely differently than the F150. I know of people that hated the look of the F150 but loved the look of the Super Duty so they bought Super Duties based upon looks alone, even though they didn't need more than a half ton pickup. So when you add all that up, I realize that Ford still outsold GM and Chrysler in the 3/4 and 1 ton truck market, and I would add for good reason as they had some serious advantages that GM and Ram have only recently caught up to. However, I would argue that GM and Chrysler had better non diesel engines available in their 3/4 and 1 ton pickups than Ford did so a lot of their 3/4 and 1 ton truck buyers were able to get by without ponying up the bucks for a diesel.

I say all of this as a current owner of a 2011 GM 2500HD gas truck AND a 1997 Ford F350 7.3 Powerstroke. I see the value in all of the trucks and spend my money on what turns out to be the best value for me at the time. Oh and even though I only had it a short time my 6.4 Powerstroke equipped F250 never gave me any problems and was a powerhouse that pulled like a freight train. I liked it quite a bit.

One thing that kills the Ford gas motors is the rear axle ratio. All of the superdutys have huge tires then they put a 3.73 rear in most of them when they should have had a 4.10 or lower.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #42  
I actually agree with you on every point. Now this has changed a bit with Ford now putting in the 6.2 in the Super Duty lineup that leads the class in the gas trucks.

Chris

The 6.2 in the gas Super Duties does seem to be a real winner. I'm looking forward to the next generation of GM gas engines as they might raise the bar a little higher. I would be happy in the interim if GM put their 6.2 V8 in the HD trucks as well as the 1500's but the rumored direct injection GM v8's should be pretty sweet. I'd also love to see a larger displacement Hemi available on he Rams, 6.0 to 6.4 liters seems to be a sweet spot for truck engines.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #43  
Dodge has had their fair share of problems. The older trucks like a 01 you were doing good to get 20K out of a set of front brakes. The transmissions were junk too, I know a guy who is on his 4th trans with 150k on the truck he doesn't tow that much. I guess that is why you see so many manual trans Dodges. The 98-07 Chevy's had alot of problems. The gauge clusters were junk. The Front wheel bearing/ hub assembly you are doing good to 100k out of them. The flywheels still crack in the gasser. The transfer case has a anti-rattle clip that breaks and knock a hole through it and ruins it. The fuel pump on the gasser. The steering bumps when you turn it after you get some miles on the truck on you have to grease a plastic bushing under the dash. The brake lines rust up, and the tailgate straps break.

That's a very broad brush..First off..GM covered the guage clusters and the tailgate straps. As far as wheel bearings--I've run 2 GM trucks in the age that you state to 200K and never replaced a single front end part beyond shocks...So generalities are running a little loose here.

I haven't replaced a flywheel on anything except a 1980 Delta 88 inclusive of the multiple GM 4x4 and 4x2 trucks ive owned ranging from 1970-2011.

I've never had to dig into a transfer case on anything except a 25 year old 1976 GMC where the chain was slightly knockin aginst the case due to wear...I'd give that one a pass.

If you don't run wet fuel pumps on "E" they tend to last a really long time...Only replaced one in my life.

Won't speak to Dodge..Never owned one and anything I know is second hand... That might be one mans opinion or something and it very well could be wrong
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #44  
That's a very broad brush..First off..GM covered the guage clusters and the tailgate straps. As far as wheel bearings--I've run 2 GM trucks in the age that you state to 200K and never replaced a single front end part beyond shocks...So generalities are running a little loose here.

I haven't replaced a flywheel on anything except a 1980 Delta 88 inclusive of the multiple GM 4x4 and 4x2 trucks ive owned ranging from 1970-2011.

I've never had to dig into a transfer case on anything except a 25 year old 1976 GMC where the chain was slightly knockin aginst the case due to wear...I'd give that one a pass.

If you don't run wet fuel pumps on "E" they tend to last a really long time...Only replaced one in my life.

Won't speak to Dodge..Never owned one and anything I know is second hand... That might be one mans opinion or something and it very well could be wrong

Those are all problems I have seen. The wheel bearing is common in the 3/4 and 1 ton. When one goes the other is right behind it.

Transfer Case
Chevy and GMC Transfer Case Problem - YouTube
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I installed a upgrade kit in a truck. I know a guy who did a transfer case in his. I did one in a truck and the dealer had never heard of this problem but amazingly the rebuilt one the sent had been repaired right were the one I took out had a hole. The same truck I put a t-case in I did a flywheel. If you don't believe me about the flywheel google chevy 6.0 flywheel. Busted flywheel are common in GM's but the newer ones aren't as bad.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #45  
Those are all problems I have seen. The wheel bearing is common in the 3/4 and 1 ton. When one goes the other is right behind it.

Transfer Case
Chevy and GMC Transfer Case Problem - YouTube
pump_rub_fix_transfer-case-pump-upgrade-kit
I installed a upgrade kit in a truck. I know a guy who did a transfer case in his. I did one in a truck and the dealer had never heard of this problem but amazingly the rebuilt one the sent had been repaired right were the one I took out had a hole. The same truck I put a t-case in I did a flywheel. If you don't believe me about the flywheel google chevy 6.0 flywheel. Busted flywheel are common in GM's but the newer ones aren't as bad.

Look, What I'm trying to say is that many love to try to bury GM and Dodge while implyying that Ford never has an issue..There is another thread in this section that has a massive Ford failure...I've abstained from that one...Given some of the postings about GM from 1 of the contibutors I thought discretion was the better part of valor. I don't bash other brands even though I have more than enough ammo to do it..I just won't.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #46  
timswi said:
Look, What I'm trying to say is that many love to try to bury GM and Dodge while implyying that Ford never has an issue..There is another thread in this section that has a massive Ford failure...I've abstained from that one...Given some of the postings about GM from 1 of the contibutors I thought discretion was the better part of valor. I don't bash other brands even though I have more than enough ammo to do it..I just won't.

I'm not saying that ford has not had problems but everyone always bashes up on ford and forget gets about stuff other manufacturers have done. Like I said earlier you don't have to look to far with internet to find somebody having a problem with anything.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #47  
94BULLITT said:
Those are all problems I have seen. The wheel bearing is common in the 3/4 and 1 ton. When one goes the other is right behind it.

Transfer Case
Chevy and GMC Transfer Case Problem - YouTube
pump_rub_fix_transfer-case-pump-upgrade-kit
I installed a upgrade kit in a truck. I know a guy who did a transfer case in his. I did one in a truck and the dealer had never heard of this problem but amazingly the rebuilt one the sent had been repaired right were the one I took out had a hole. The same truck I put a t-case in I did a flywheel. If you don't believe me about the flywheel google chevy 6.0 flywheel. Busted flywheel are common in GM's but the newer ones aren't as bad.

I have done 2 GM transfer cases. Both under 40,000 miles. Done bearings also before 75,000 miles. Steering shafts and one fuel pump. Never had any problems on the other 4 brands of trucks like this.

Chris
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #48  
Dodge has had their fair share of problems. The older trucks like a 01 you were doing good to get 20K out of a set of front brakes. The transmissions were junk too, I know a guy who is on his 4th trans with 150k on the truck he doesn't tow that much. I guess that is why you see so many manual trans Dodges. The 98-07 Chevy's had alot of problems. The gauge clusters were junk. The Front wheel bearing/ hub assembly you are doing good to 100k out of them. The flywheels still crack in the gasser. The transfer case has a anti-rattle clip that breaks and knock a hole through it and ruins it. The fuel pump on the gasser. The steering bumps when you turn it after you get some miles on the truck on you have to grease a plastic bushing under the dash. The brake lines rust up, and the tailgate straps break.

You just hear more out of Ford because there are more, they have been the best selling truck for 35 years. Now with the internets you don't have to look to far for anybody to be having a problem with anything.



One thing that kills the Ford gas motors is the rear axle ratio. All of the superdutys have huge tires then they put a 3.73 rear in most of them when they should have had a 4.10 or lower.

If you read my post more carefully, I said Dodge & GM diesels, not transmissions, brakes, etc.

I know someone who owned a Chevy 3500 duramax and finally sold it with over 300,000 miles on it with no other than ordinary maintenance repairs. I got 91,000 miles out of the first set of brakes on one I owned. Was used to plow snow and tow trailers.
Drivetrain was never touched. My experience with them has been great.
Just goes to show you that one person's bad experiences with one truck can be wiped out by someone else who had the same truck and had nothing but trouble free ownership.

Maybe your ONE individual experience was bad, but with respect to your 11,000 posts, to call them ALL junk sounds like very broadly stated brand bashing based on the bare minimal experience. Wonder how others must feel when they read this about their vehicles they worked hard to buy and may be very proud of?

Best selling would never be my primary reason for buying anything.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #49  
20ft. from my toolbox is the office of our service director that is over 5 dealers and 7 makes. This includes Chevy, Ford and Dodge. I've also got 12 yrs experience of working on the things including 4 yrs as a Ford transmission/diesel tech. So I've got a bit to say about the brands being discussed.

They all make good and bad, but the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 trucks are in a class all their own when it comes to failure rates. He's told me more than once that when it gets slow at the Ford store atleast they still have diesels to fix.

The Duramax has been a great engine as a whole. Aside from injectors(that have extended warranty) in the first few years they are pretty near on par with the Cummins for durability.

The rest of the trucks may slightly favor the Fords for durability, but when I left their in '04 I wasn't too impressed with them compared to the Rams we service at this location.
 
   / 2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems #50  
My '08 Ford with 54,000 mi is going in for a turbo and probably rocker arms as soon as I can part with it this winter.
I like my Superduty chassis, cab space, rugged suspension, but probably should have gone with a gasser and skipped the 6/6.4L series diesels altogether. The bad/good thing about them is the break at very low mileage for a diesel, so they're usually under warranty when they grenade.
It's too bad GM didn't follow Ford & Dodge and take the old style GM 3500HD chassis that rode on 19.5's and stuff a dmax/ally in it. That would have been one awesome truck. The 4500/5500 was too big to fit in a garage and get in/out of multiple times/day.

I can't buy GM anymore because they took the bailout in 2010 and have an unfair advantage over Ford.
Obama spoiled it for me and left me stuck having to buy Ford....
 

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