2006 duramax- 3500

   / 2006 duramax- 3500 #21  
Well I lost out on a couple of powerstrokes. But i stumbled across a 2006/3500/SWD/ crew/8ft bed.6-speed allison. 94,000 miles. It's in pristine condition. Southern vehicle, no rust or corrosion issues what so ever. One owner. Price is reasonable, a little more than i want to spend, but the reality is what it is. Also price I'm at with them now is what NADA recommends as clean trade allowance, actually a few dollars higher. Rambling on, whoops

What i want to know from people who know, hows this engine and drive train been holding up? Quirks?

Thanks guys. i've gotten some of the best advice, information from this place.

It is 3 years younger than my '03.
(which happens to be a DRW Chassis/cab, with after market aluminum flat bed)
Since I only have about 150,000 miles on that it may be too early to tell.
I really like the Allison trans, maybe I should say I like its tow/haul algorithm.

I had a front wheel speed sensor go out, which caused some WEIRD symptoms.
To the ABS that represented a locked up brake, so it would divert all pressure FROM that wheel and pulse the pedal to let me know, although this only happened at just about walking speed. It ate out the other front brake.
Since I tow horses around I drive in a style that rarely requires braking - at all and just about never requires HARD braking.

Bottom line; RockAuto parts mail order, two whole hubs, disks, pads, etc. a simple enough DIY project with normal hand tools.
It is my understanding that it would have been a near $2K job if it had gone in the shop.
Other than that, driver side window regulator went out a month ago, again simple DIY about $100 at Autozone.
An aside on this; while I had the door apart I noticed that despite 8 years in New England and a lot of road salt there is NO RUST inside the door - LIKE NEW !!!
Yes, we DO drive horses around in the winter time, indoor shows, vet runs, etc.
BTW, I'm not totally convinced that this has made any HUGE difference, but in my new truck owner enthusiasm I fitted the trans with a bigger/deeper oil pan.
It was the "to do thing" on the truck forums at the time, the rationale being that more fluid takes longer to heat up on long climbs when loaded, so you have a better chance of reaching the downgrade and cooling it before it gets way too hot. Most of the extra capacity is lower, i.e. better exposed to the air stream under the truck.
Since I haul as many as 6 horses at a time it seemed like a good idea.
This is a standard GM steel pan that is used on the same trans in a different vehicle, so it was quite cheap and doesn't seem to reduce ground clearance "significantly".
I also switched to Synthetic trans oil.

What else ???
Mine has the DIC (driver info center) with independent displays of Trip Miles, Gallons, MPH Avg & MPG Avg for "Business" and "Pleasure". I use the "Business" set for towing.
After correcting for actual gallons used and miles traveled.
14.6 towing a 39 ft head to head horse trailer.
18.7 without the trailer.
In all fairness this truck rarely goes anywhere without horses, e.g. occasional couch moves, to the inspection station for its annual sticker, etc., not much else.
I am confident that this is a 20+ MPG truck when unhooked - - and on trips over 5 miles (-:
 
   / 2006 duramax- 3500 #22  
My concern is with the company who built the truck. Their stock went to zero, wiping out billions of retirement money for people. Then the company got several billion more from the government, which they will never pay back. Now their "new" GM stock that started at $35 a share is about to cross Ford's again on it's way down. They have 6 more years, as my understanding, before they can file bankruptcy again, but I have a hard time seeing any politician agreeing to literally give them tens of billions again to keep them in business. If they keep going down this time, I believe it will be for good. Hey, in 50 years they could be good collector items.

I am personal friends with too many GM dealers and their butts are puckering so hard they could bite off a 10 penny nail right now. Advertising and spin say let the good times roll, apple pie and Chevrolet, etc.. The accounting says something a bit different as reflected in almost a 40% loss in stock value of the "new" GM. There again, I only have 3 GM products left in my collection; a '62, a '67 and a '75. There won't ever be anymore GM additions, stock or products, for me in my lifetime. Got burned pretty bad when GM went belly up the first time. Now dealers are mostly being told "you pay for it" if there is anything even remotely questionable where GM can get out of paying for warranty repairs. If I were a "new" GM stock holder, that would be a good thing; trying to stem the losses. Since I'm not, I'll just sit back and watch the slow motion train wreck from afar.
 
   / 2006 duramax- 3500 #23  
not to hijack the thread.. but when did DPF go widespread.

soundguy
 
   / 2006 duramax- 3500
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#25  
On our big rigs, the DPF(or piece of **** burner) went in trucks manufactured 2008? Than to UREA + the DPF in 2011 units. The UREA seems to be working out. Not as much EGR going on. But this pertains to big rigs. Navistar is the only one that makes a EPA compliant motor without UREA.

I've talked to 2 different guys with pickups that burn the UREA. One was a ford and the other a GM. Both like 'em. Seem to be working good.
 
   / 2006 duramax- 3500 #26  
I have an 02 and 06 duramax. If you get the 06 make sure its the LBZ not the LLY. Anyways both truck's are flawless. I did have to have a few injectors changed under warranty on my 02. My 02 has 132,000 and I tow the max with it which is close to 22,000 Single rear wheel. Before my chevy i was a ford guy and they always let me down. I had an 02 7.3 and 04 6.0 The 04 was in the shop 33 times, and I filed lemon law and ford gave me a check for 12,000 and told me to keep the truck. I sold it and went to chevy and never looked back.

What is the difference between the early 2006 LLY and the 2006 later LBZ other than the horsepower? MY dealer told me that was the sole difference and that the 2006 LLY could be upgraded to the LBZ with an electronic upgrade of 40HP. The dealers here normally would do it for free.
 
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   / 2006 duramax- 3500 #27  
Regarding the Urea thing, one thing I hate about the new DMax's is the tank location and that it sits just below the frame rail. I believe the first year did not have a tank gauge either (not sure if they added it to this year's model or not though). I wouldn't trade my LBZ for anything, but when I bought the Camaro I was in the dealership looking at the new DMax's for fun, and there is no way I would buy one of those. I would have it destroyed in a heartbeat up hunting or down in the woods. There is also the issue of freezing with those too I hear, but have no practical knowledge of the problem. I hope my 2006 lasts forever. :thumbsup:
 

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