2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4

[GordonR]

Have a 02 250 sd gas and it hauls a 10k gvw trailer everyday moving material from job to job. its my 1st ford and it has not failed me yet.
broke the frame on my 88 gmc with 360k miles on it hence the ford.needed a truck not a glorified ego extension that the local dealers had .
told the ford guy 3/4 ton 4wd lighter and cup holder all i needed
1st one had cruise control and an auto tran said fine and haven't looked back since
have hauled my Bota and implements , full units of 3/4 plywood and 2by material with no problems and just went past 180k on odometer
they are what they are
overload them and they will fail you
Don

 

[Kahuna]

I am getting a 5th wheel hitch installed next week in my 07 Tundra. I will let everyone know how it pulls a 30 foot goose neck with a M Farmall loaded on it. That will be about 11,500 pounds, 1200 pounds over the rated pulling weight. The 5.4 Ford pulled it but it really labored doing so. Again, the gas F250 is rated at 6900 while the gas Toyota is rated at 10,300. It will be interesting to see what it will do.

 

[Rara Avis]

I am getting a 5th wheel hitch installed next week in my 07 Tundra. I will let everyone know how it pulls a 30 foot goose neck with a M Farmall loaded on it. That will be about 11,500 pounds, 1200 pounds over the rated pulling weight. The 5.4 Ford pulled it but it really labored doing so. Again, the gas F250 is rated at 6900 while the gas Toyota is rated at 10,300. It will be interesting to see what it will do.

Take a picture of the rear springs when they flatten out...

 

[gemini5362]

Seems like I have been in this kind of post before. correct me if I am wrong but you are going to pull a 30 foot trailer loaded with a 1/2 ton pickup. Seems to me like you are going to be a bit overloaded. But it is not my truck and hopefully you dont drive around where I do. There is an interesting post about the commercial that shows the tundra stopping ten thousand pounds. Something along the lines of the truck is 5500 of those pounds. I find it different that you thought the Ford Diesel was slow. I have test driven them and do not remember the Ford Diesels being that much different in power than my Duramax. Might be a bit less but not enough for me to really feel it. I know that I would not say my Duramax is slow. I can go from 0 to 60 in a little over 7 seconds. That is real life driving not holding the brakes to spool the turbo up. A lot of the new cars do 0 to 60 times in the low 6's so I feel pretty good about my times. I hear a lot of pros and cons about the tundra. I have driven and owned toyota cars and one toyota truck. I did not have any heartburn with them. I would not buy a toyota tundra because I dont feel comfortable hauling my 49 horse tractor with fel on a 1/2 ton truck. I dont care what they advertise. I would not do it. I have learned one thing about the diesel trucks. The sticker price is a joke. MY first duramax was listed at 48,600 I paid 38,000 for it and got low interest financing. My expeience when shopping for toyota cars is that they are very proud of them. The dealers dont want to come down on prices.

 

[workinallthetime]

some great news for toyota;

GM moves back ahead of Toyota - GMInsideNews Forums

Toyota also has to protect against damage to its reputation in the U.S. market. Earlier this month, the influential Consumer Reports survey dropped the Toyota brand from first to fifth place, placing it behind Honda Motor's (Charts) Honda and Acura brands, as well as Toyota Motor's Scion brand and Subaru - in average vehicle reliability

i know how much you guys like consumer reports, lol

good news mahundra is going to have cars here in 08 to.

 

[workinallthetime]

I dislike semi-floating rear axles; here is the reason: if the vehicle overnights some where, other than level terrain for the axle, all the gear lube floats to the low side! Thus when departing, one bearing is dry while the low axle is over full. I have had to replace two bearings on a '93 GMC with semi-floating rear axles! If the vehicle is loaded, the wear is even greater!

please explain the difference in how the outter axel bearing would be dry in a semi floater and wet in a full floater in the situation you are talking about.

 

[Rara Avis]

HEAVY-DUTY PICKUP PLANS HALTED
Both Nissan and Toyota say they have ceased plans to enter the heavy-duty market.

HEAVY-DUTY PICKUP PLANS HALTED B

 

[Rara Avis]

Here's your Tundra review with all the data...
"2007 Toyota Tundra is Full Size dominating 1/2 ton Pickup Truck Segmant, made for Towing Trailers."

 

[jeffster]

I certainly don't care what anyone else drives, but I take exception to the statement that the Duramax is slow without a programmer. Mine is stock at 360HP/650 Ft. Lbs. and while I tend to baby it, I have no problem passing just about anything I want to if I need to. Take offs from a dead stop are really fun too, but just kill the tires as there is so much power. Towing a fully loaded 6.5x12 heavy duty dump trailer with my JD 3520 in it is completely no effort at all.

Years past I had Toyotas and they were great trucks for what I used them for. In fact, I would love to still have my Tacoma for a hunting rig as my truck is a bit big for some of the roads I am on and the smaller Tacoma was a great nimble off road truck.

However, there is no way I would consider towing anything heavy with a 1/2 ton truck, I don't care who makes it. Like was pointed out in earlier posts, there is a lot more to towing than raw muscle.

 

[john_bud]

All very interesting. The toyota is a nice truck, powerful and well executed. For the OP's uses, it sounds like a good match.

There is also new engine tech on the horizon that will allow gas engines to meet the diesel power and torque with the same or better economy. From what I understand, it involves increasing the injection pressure up to nearly the same as modern diesel's. (20kpsi ish). The injectors can then pulse to give fuel across more of the combustion time (cylinder sweep) mimicking the benefits of diesel fuels slow burn.

The slow burn rate of diesel fuel is what gives a diesel engine the high torque advantage over a gas engine. They can inject much more fuel and it slowly burns as the piston sweeps downward resulting in a higher average cylinder pressure. The slow burn also is what limits the max rpm of a diesel engine. Anything over 4000-4500 and the fuel is still burning as it is exhausted.

If you inject enough gasoline all at once to equal a diesel's low end torque the combustion pressures spike and expensive sounds follow. But, inject that same amount of gasoline in 3-10 small computer controlled bursts as the piston drops and you can meet or exceed the torque of a diesel. You can also still wrap the tach needle up to 8 grand if you want to.

If you want economy, you can dribble in small amounts of fuel to ensure complete combustion.

In theory, it sounds like having your cake and eating it too (with ice cream on top). Time will tell. But given the advances in gas engines in the past 10 years, I wouldn't bet against it!