2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4

   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #81  
wushaw said:
The obvious differences between a 3/4 and one ton are:

1. ft. rotors
2. rear rotors
3. wheels
4. rear springs with the overload frame stops
5. fender flares

I think that's about it.
I am curious about why you feel that the rotors are different. I can understand why you listed wheels. Although a one ton that is not a dually has the same wheels as a 3/4 ton. and the fender flares if you have dually wheels.

From what I am seeing the major difference seems to be springs
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #82  
gemini5362 said:
I am curious about why you feel that the rotors are different. I can understand why you listed wheels. Although a one ton that is not a dually has the same wheels as a 3/4 ton. and the fender flares if you have dually wheels.

From what I am seeing the major difference seems to be springs

Yes the wheels are different and for them all to fit all the way around the truck the ft. rotor/hub has to be able to accept the dishing of a dually rim.

The rotor diameter is the same, the rotor and hub are one unit and not separate, the hub part will stick out farther than a 3/4 ton or single wheel one ton rotor/hub to accept the dish of the dually rim.

If you have a chance look at the ft. rotors of a dually and you will see what I am talking about.

Also if you look online at say Napa and pull up the part numbers on the ft. rotors you will see that the 3/4 and single wheel one ton are the same part #
( the GVWR will show on their screen...9900 single and 12k dually)

The dually is a different part #.

Whoops I just re-read everything and you were talking about the single wheel one ton.

Then yes the rear springs would be the only differences.

When I think one ton I automatically think dually since if I want a one ton I want something that will carry a load with more stability, handling and safety margin.
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #83  
wushaw said:
Yes the wheels are different and for them all to fit all the way around the truck the ft. rotor/hub has to be able to accept the dishing of a dually rim.

The rotor diameter is the same, the rotor and hub are one unit and not separate, the hub part will stick out farther than a 3/4 ton or single wheel one ton rotor/hub to accept the dish of the dually rim.

If you have a chance look at the ft. rotors of a dually and you will see what I am talking about.

Also if you look online at say Napa and pull up the part numbers on the ft. rotors you will see that the 3/4 and single wheel one ton are the same part #
( the GVWR will show on their screen...9900 single and 12k dually)

The dually is a different part #.

Whoops I just re-read everything and you were talking about the single wheel one ton.

Then yes the rear springs would be the only differences.

When I think one ton I automatically think dually since if I want a one ton I want something that will carry a load with more stability, handling and safety margin.


This is an interesting and enlightening conversation. I understand that you normally think of 1 ton with dually wheels since the majority of them are. I also see what you say about the front hubs. One of the things someone mentioned to me and I am not sure if it is right or not is that 4 wheel drive 3/4 ton rotor/hub assembly on the front end will accept a dually wheel. Do you know if that is correct. ?
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #84  
I am sure it will accept with the wheel dished out the wrong way but I am not totally for sure.
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #85  
Doing that will tear the **** out of the steering and ball joints. I have had both single and dual real wheel diesel 1 tons and will never have another dually. Last set of tires I put on a F-350 cost nearly $1800 and all those extra tires did for me was find 50% more pot holes. It also was horrible in the snow and ice which we get a lot of here in Northern Indiana.

Chris
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #86  
when the 01 d-max was released I went to the gm "power tour" they had a ford, dodge, and a chevy. we put these trucks through all kinds of **** even had them on a portable dyno. the gm beat them all in every catagory but it was a gm event. We had to go to all these classes to talk about the new trucks and one of the things i remember them telling us ws that a 3/4 ton could actully tow more than than the 1 ton because of the single rear wheel design was lighter than the duelly. They told us the only difference was the 1 ton was a duel rear wheel truck and the 3/4 ton was a single rear wheel plain and simple. now that was 01, things may have changed with the race to see who can tow the most with the smallest truck trend.

oh and on a side note, i have yet to find a toy owner who will hook up with me at the light. think they are scared of that little "max" emblem on the side of my truck, lol
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #87  
gemini5362 said:
Towing a 20 foot trailer at 100mph in a half ton truck. Why does that not sound like something that i would want to be in the same state with someone that was doing that.

There was a period between those two statements which means end of thought.
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #88  
WeedHopper said:
Had my 07 Tundra with the 5.7 liter for about 3 months and have about 5000 miles on it. Getting 17.3 mpg in normal back and forth to work driving. Got 18.2 on my last long trip. Great truck. Raced a DOdGe Hemi the other day and it wasn't even a contest. Hard to feather the gas when accelerating from a stop as 1st gear in the 6 speed tranny is low and the rear axle ratio with the towing package is 4.30:1. Tows my 20 ft. toy box with ease. Not even breathing hard at 100 mph. The oil filter sucks! Remains to be seen if it will hold up as good as my ole 86 POS 250 that has 500,000 miles on it (3rd engine). Toyota has had some bad 5.7 liter engines but so far they are just installing new ones.

Here is your entire quote. When I read that it appeared to me that you are saying your tundra tows your 20 ft. toy box with ease. Not even breathing hard at 100 mph. I take that to mean that it tows that 20 foot trailer without any effort at 100 miles per hour. If that is not what you meant it to sound like then I apologize but that is the impression that I got from your post.
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #89  
gemini5362 said:
Here is your entire quote. When I read that it appeared to me that you are saying your tundra tows your 20 ft. toy box with ease. Not even breathing hard at 100 mph. I take that to mean that it tows that 20 foot trailer without any effort at 100 miles per hour. If that is not what you meant it to sound like then I apologize but that is the impression that I got from your post.

weedhopper;
you had 500,000 miles on a f250 and you didn't buy another one,WHY
 
   / 2007 Tundra vs F250 5.4 #90  
gemini5362 said:
Here is your entire quote. When I read that it appeared to me that you are saying your tundra tows your 20 ft. toy box with ease. Not even breathing hard at 100 mph. I take that to mean that it tows that 20 foot trailer without any effort at 100 miles per hour. If that is not what you meant it to sound like then I apologize but that is the impression that I got from your post.
This is why weedhopper pointed out there's a period between his 2 sentences.
{Sentence 1} Tows my 20 ft. toy box with ease . {Sentence 2} Not even breathing hard at 100 mph.

It might have been better phrased as a bulleted list.
  • Tows my 20 ft. toy box with ease.
  • Not even breathing hard at 100 mph.
 

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