2008 chev/gmc light duty truck changes

[wushaw]

It is the desire to keep up with the Jones's.

I know what ya mean by the mileage thing...it doesn't make any sense.

 

[bitternut]

workinallthetime the problem with the brakes is that I live in the rustbelt of WNY and I do not ride around all the time with a couple ton of weight in the back. The rear rotors build up with crap because of the proportioning valve being set up for braking with a heavy load. My truck is empty most of the time. It builds up until finally chunks start coming off and then the pads start to destruct. The rotors look as though they are delaminating. They came apart the first time at about 20,000 mi and were replaced under warranty. The next time it happened at about 45,0000. A rear brake job on one of these is about $1200 bucks at the dealer. I know of many trucks in my area that have had this problem. I don't believe they offer all wheel disc brakes on these trucks anymore. Guess GM forgot to do a corrosion test on this brake system

As for the tailgate cables mine broke while loading a 500# cub cadet riding lawn mower after only one winter. That was a real eye opener. When I took it back to the dealer I pulled into the service area to explain my problem to the service writer, she ( they had two female service writers ) pulled some tools out of a drawer along with a couple of new cables and replaced them on the spot. The cables still had the made in china tag on them as well as one of the original ones. I would guess they had been replacing a couple of them before. The new ones are rusty now like the old ones. They are a cheap grade of stainless if in fact they are stainless. Probably came from the same plant that makes tooth paste.

This truck also had the clunk in the steering that was repaired by the dealer under warranty. Guess it has been a problem for quite a number of model years. Oh, yeah the clutch on the fan also went one hot day and puked up all the anti-freeze. The truck was just out of warranty and I had to eat the repair cost. Another problem in my mind is the lifter noise when truck is first started. Dealer says it is spark knock. Yeah, right. I have the 6000 engine.

 

[Toiyabe]

I saw a fuel mileage rating on a 07 ford Ranger today.... 14 city, 17 highway. It is only half a truck. Why isn't this little 1/4 ton truck getting 25 - 30 mpg ?

It does, with the 2.3 L, 5 speed manual and 2WD. I regularly get 25-27 with mine (2003 model), with an about equal mix of dirt road, highway and city miles.

The numbers you quoted are probably for the 4.0 L V6, auto, 4WD.

 

[workinallthetime]

workinallthetime the problem with the brakes is that I live in the rustbelt of WNY and I do not ride around all the time with a couple ton of weight in the back. The rear rotors build up with crap because of the proportioning valve being set up for braking with a heavy load. My truck is empty most of the time. It builds up until finally chunks start coming off and then the pads start to destruct. The rotors look as though they are delaminating. They came apart the first time at about 20,000 mi and were replaced under warranty. The next time it happened at about 45,0000. A rear brake job on one of these is about $1200 bucks at the dealer. I know of many trucks in my area that have had this problem. I don't believe they offer all wheel disc brakes on these trucks anymore. Guess GM forgot to do a corrosion test on this brake system

As for the tailgate cables mine broke while loading a 500# cub cadet riding lawn mower after only one winter. That was a real eye opener. When I took it back to the dealer I pulled into the service area to explain my problem to the service writer, she ( they had two female service writers ) pulled some tools out of a drawer along with a couple of new cables and replaced them on the spot. The cables still had the made in china tag on them as well as one of the original ones. I would guess they had been replacing a couple of them before. The new ones are rusty now like the old ones. They are a cheap grade of stainless if in fact they are stainless. Probably came from the same plant that makes tooth paste.

This truck also had the clunk in the steering that was repaired by the dealer under warranty. Guess it has been a problem for quite a number of model years. Oh, yeah the clutch on the fan also went one hot day and puked up all the anti-freeze. The truck was just out of warranty and I had to eat the repair cost. Another problem in my mind is the lifter noise when truck is first started. Dealer says it is spark knock. Yeah, right. I have the 6000 engine.

1st I would find another dealer. a repeat brake problem like that should have sent up red flags and i bet you could have gotten it covered even at your mileage. gm still makes 4 wheel disc trucks, i own one and will be upset when they quit. I am down in oklahoma though and we dont get much salt on the road here.
2nd i have no idea what the weight rating of those straps are, but cant think of one instance where they have been replaced more than once at the dealer i worked at.
3rd stearing clunk is due to the composition of the metal in the shaft. to hard it wont give away in an accident, to soft and you get that clunking feel.
4th "lifter noise" is actually piston slap, as ugly as it sounds its nothing to worry about. 130k on my 99 and did it from 5k on, denali same noise but not as bad, new 07 worse than the denali. all these have 6.0 engines, i can tell you that i did get alot less noise in the am by using 5w-30 synthetic blend mobil oil.

If i was in your shoes i would contact gm customer support and let them know whats going on, you might be surprised at how they will take care of you.

 

[crbr]

2K2 / 2500HD / diesel burner / 95K miles...brakes still stop on a dime.

Fuel injectors? I'm on my third set. These will last me for the life of the truck in my garage. I'm shopping as we speak This truck has a short life span...

Not may to be had in the way of silver birch color.

I'm looking for a 2007 with the LBZ engine.

 

[dgl24087]

It does, with the 2.3 L, 5 speed manual and 2WD. I regularly get 25-27 with mine (2003 model), with an about equal mix of dirt road, highway and city miles.

The numbers you quoted are probably for the 4.0 L V6, auto, 4WD.

EPA has changed the testing procedure for fuel economy ratings, to more realistically mirror the average driver's driving habits. That is the correct rating for the new procedure, which must be posted on all 2008 model vehicles, possibly vehicles built after a certain date must carry these new numbers as well. 2008 Fuel Economy Tests

 

[Adiredneck]

workinallthetime the problem with the brakes is that I live in the rustbelt of WNY and I do not ride around all the time with a couple ton of weight in the back. The rear rotors build up with crap because of the proportioning valve being set up for braking with a heavy load. My truck is empty most of the time. It builds up until finally chunks start coming off and then the pads start to destruct. The rotors look as though they are delaminating. They came apart the first time at about 20,000 mi and were replaced under warranty. The next time it happened at about 45,0000. A rear brake job on one of these is about $1200 bucks at the dealer. I know of many trucks in my area that have had this problem. I don't believe they offer all wheel disc brakes on these trucks anymore. Guess GM forgot to do a corrosion test on this brake system

I had a 2001 1/2 ton. Same problem with the rear brakes. I drive a company vehicle, so my personal truck sat (outside a lot). I blame that for the brake problems. I now have a garage for my 2005 2500 HD and they're nice & shiny still. The moisture in upstate NY winters & sitting for long periods are no good for rear discs. On the other end of the spectrum, my 2001 2500HD work truck went 73,000 miles on the original brakes (until it slid into a creek with me in it during an ice storm). That truck was awesome! They replaced it with a 2005 GMC 2500HD. Another solid truck. I put 41000 on that one before they finally put me in a new 2007 Colorado. Just oil changes & tire rotations & the 2500HD's are indestructable.

 

[workinallthetime]

as much as i hate to say it i wonder if an aftermarket rotor would be the way to go. i think i would be in close contact with gm and be on them as much as it takes to get them to take care of you. They will, i have seen it hundreds of times. Get a case number started with them and it wont go away for 2 to 5 years, call them everytime something goes wrong. GM wants to keep you as a customer so its in your best interest to talk to them every chance you have about a concern. I will do some digging and see what i caom up with for your problem.

 

[Builder]

I think the GM (and Ford) rotors are pretty much junk and would replace them with a quality rotor if they go bad after warranty.

 

[jwstewar]

I've got a '99 Silverado w/ the 4-wheel disk brakes and I love them. I've got almost 100k on it now. Still on the original front pads. Replaced the rear pads at about 65k because I had a sqeak. Thought it was the brakes, turns out it was the u-joints. The pads were fine, would probably would still be on there if it weren't for that squeak. I still have the steering clunk. Took it in for service when the truck was under warranty. Dealer told me they couldn't hear/see/feel anything wrong other than the truck needed greased. Knew that was BS, because it hadn't been that long since it had been greased. Went through that 3 or 4 times. Finally warranty was over and I gave up. Now I find they have a replacement shaft. It is so aggravating, I'm almost tempted to order one, but it seems there is always something needing $ more.