2008 Jinma 284 Injector Pump Oil Change

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Kenny---- I know this is a cut chinese thread BUT!!!! have you ever seen a sims injection pump on the old 3000,5000,6600 and 5900 FORD Tractors. The oil has to be changed in them every 300 hours or so just like these little tractors. The oil gets deluted by the by-pass tolerance in the barrel and plunger area and if not change regularly it will cause the pump to seize up. There is no pressured oil supply to these pumps like it is on the newer 6610 models. I have seen several seized pumps in the last 30 years. They say that no one told them to change the oil in the pump. I point out the page in the operators manual and ask them if they read the book before operating the tractor. A little bit of research can solve alot of failures. Yours and mine!!!
 
   / 2008 Jinma 284 Injector Pump Oil Change #12  
Kenny---- I know this is a cut chinese thread BUT!!!! have you ever seen a sims injection pump on the old 3000,5000,6600 and 5900 FORD Tractors. The oil has to be changed in them every 300 hours or so just like these little tractors. The oil gets deluted by the by-pass tolerance in the barrel and plunger area and if not change regularly it will cause the pump to seize up. There is no pressured oil supply to these pumps like it is on the newer 6610 models. I have seen several seized pumps in the last 30 years. They say that no one told them to change the oil in the pump. I point out the page in the operators manual and ask them if they read the book before operating the tractor. A little bit of research can solve alot of failures. Yours and mine!!!
this information makes me wonder about all my friends that have bought a foton tractor, it seems that in very short order they are having injector pump problems, i think i found out why all my friends where losing clutches, i have been passing this knowledge on and now i will add the fuelm pump oil change. i never imagined that i would see anything like this on here when i joined (mainly i needed help with my 600 ford ). lots on smart people on here .
 
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The pumps aren't machined as tight as the name brands. It dilutes with fuel over time. That's why we change it. and oil is cheap.

The pumps are machined every bit as "tight" as the name brands. And if you are referring to IH, Case, Ford, Cat, whoever, as name brands, not one of them make their own fuel injection pumps. You should get out more. :laughing:
I don't care whose pump it is, they ALL leak by because there has to be a sliding fit tolerance, and there are no seals because they would be useless under 2,200 psig.
 
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   / 2008 Jinma 284 Injector Pump Oil Change #14  
The "Name Brands" DO NOT have a separate oil reserve in them:confused: They are lubricated by fuel...That is ULSD is bad for older engines with mechanical fuel injector pumps and a additive should be used to increase "lubricity"
THE ONLY PARTS THAT ARE LUBRICATED BY FUEL ARE THE BARREL AND PLUNGER ASSEMBLIES, THE INDIVIDUAL HIGH PRESSURE PUMPS! Many, but not all, fuel injection pump/governor assemblies have their own oil sumps. This is at the discretion of the engine manufacturer, and it is not a complicated task to convert to engine oil lubricated sumps, and recommended regular oil analysis can detect fuel cross-contamination, not your nose.
 
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Kenny---- I know this is a cut chinese thread BUT!!!! have you ever seen a sims injection pump on the old 3000,5000,6600 and 5900 FORD Tractors. The oil has to be changed in them every 300 hours or so just like these little tractors. The oil gets deluted by the by-pass tolerance in the barrel and plunger area and if not change regularly it will cause the pump to seize up. There is no pressured oil supply to these pumps like it is on the newer 6610 models. I have seen several seized pumps in the last 30 years. They say that no one told them to change the oil in the pump. I point out the page in the operators manual and ask them if they read the book before operating the tractor. A little bit of research can solve alot of failures. Yours and mine!!!

first let me say I totally agree - the oil should be checked and changed per maintenance schedule,

But to use my 554 Rhino/Shanghai as an example, it has an inline pump (like the Simms on my Ford 3000)

When I purchased it, I noticed that it had no Breather cap and just a bolt . I pulled the bolt and removed the drain plug just a few drops of condensation and a few drops of rusty oil...

Apparently the factory assembled it this way- OOPS, and it was never checked (dad had it serviced at a local tractor dealership) When asked he said Knew nothing about changing the injector pump oil and that he didn't recall there being anything in the manuals about it

So with 20 years of running, and over a thousand hours run time the only ill effect was a slightly sticky rack..

Flushed it out, and changed out the fluid as needed since then, staying nice and clean now.

Bought the correct breather cap, my Ford always dilutes the injector pumps oil (but it does have many more hours).

The Rhino- even after all those years of use with no oil at all- and it does not dilute or leak any oil.

In this case- good Chinese injector pump quality, but no breather- and a bolt instead Can't vent and yet no blown seals or gaskets, and missed maintenance

as far as the pump seizing up - it wouldn't be due to the plunger assemblies- as has been mentioned they are lubed by the diesel itself -

but the bearings that support pump crank shaft and governor - that is an area where the oil is needed and somehow this one survived

The manuals were missing, and never did find dads originals for this Rhino-

so after purchasing them and finding the breather part#,

There is not one word about changing the injector pump oil- or ANY injector pump lube maintenance of any kind, in any of the 3 manuals... go figure, it seems to be the only glaring omission So if your in doubt, check it out- sometimes manuals don't have everything covered

in my case thank goodness for the Ford 3000s manual ... and good old TBN :thumbsup:
 
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