220v outlet for welder powered by (2) 20 amp breakers

[GeneV]

Gene, maybe the next thing he tells ya might be, don't work on your tractor because tractor owners are not qualified for those task, good grief.

KC

Not even qualified to mow my own lawn lol, maybe I should just hire a landscaping engineer. Don't even get me started on using the backhoe...total amateur.

 

[dragoneggs]

Might have been me... I added a sub panel in my shop after for years running a heavy duty extension cord from my unused dryer outlet. Finally took the time to run 100ft of 6-3 from my house Service panel to a sub panel. Buried the wire between the detached garage and house. Now I have all the power I need and don't have to unplug/plug my machines and can run a couple at once, especially my air compressor while plasma cutting! Or I can be welding while someone else is woodworking.

No doubt you will enjoy your 220v power when welding! My 110/220v welder loves the added juice.

 

[GeneV]

I have 59 amp 240 in my garage for my welder also, but never used it. Due to smoke and mess i did all my welding in shop. Plus i have respirator system in shop for when i weld galvanized metal...which i used to do alot. Not much anymore.

I also research stuff online that i wish to do myself. When old washer needed a new tub seal, repairman wanted $600 to do it. I bought the seal and did it myself in about 90 minutes. Youtube rocks. Same with compressor fan on my refrigerator. Did it myself for WAY less money. I always just refer to it as being self sufficient. Last week i had a neighbor call me cause his portable generator wasnt running during power outage. He couldnt figure it out. Turned out it was way low on oil. He never serviced it, didnt even have any oil on hand. Personally, i cant stand not having parts in my shop for stuff i own. I have extra everything. I dont jus5 drop the thing off to repairman, i fix it myself. Alot of this stuff im not trained to do, so i ask questions and look it up online.

But there are limits. I dont feel like repairing an automatic transmisdion for example.

That's it right there! :drink:

I wanted to weld in the garage because I could open the doors and also just blow all resulting dust and stuff out with a leaf blower. Not to mention I have a nice wide driveway to work on. In the shop though, it's fairly tight in there, and now I gotta also figure out a fume extractor system. I'm working on that btw, using an old vacuum cleaner, it's gonna be pretty crazy if it works (I'll make a post on TBN if it works out).

 

[grsthegreat]

A friend of mine actually made his own fume hood hooked up to a large fan mounted on wall with hole in it. Worked great. Myself, i have a 30x40 shop with large roll up door. Lots of working room. I have a 250 volt greenhouse style exhaust fan on one side. Moves alot of air. If rollup was closed, i can hardly close man door. I just feel better getting exhaust crap out of building. I have a full on respirator mask with hose supplying outside air for galv metal welding or spray painting. I like my lungs

 

[ultrarunner]

Welding up my utility trailer in the driveway I managed to trip my 50 amp breaker... With 60 I would have been OK

Outlet is 16' from panel and never had an issue on little jobs but building the trailer required a lot of welds...

 

[GeneV]

A friend of mine actually made his own fume hood hooked up to a large fan mounted on wall with hole in it. Worked great. Myself, i have a 30x40 shop with large roll up door. Lots of working room. I have a 250 volt greenhouse style exhaust fan on one side. Moves alot of air. If rollup was closed, i can hardly close man door. I just feel better getting exhaust crap out of building. I have a full on respirator mask with hose supplying outside air for galv metal welding or spray painting. I like my lungs

You've got a real nice and roomy space, per the pics you posted. Tall ceilings help for sure. Me, my shop is a long 1 car garage, with 7ft ceilings.

Here's me yesterday, playing with the vacuum fume extractor thingie I threw together real quick. It works ok, not great not terrible.



I'm thinking of using a flexible ductwork with a duct fan, anybody do that? I saw a dude on youtube build one for his motorcycle exhaust. I just don't know if a duct fan would be powerful enough to suck up the fumes with the open duct hovering over the welding table.

 

[MF RED in MT]

Gene, Looks like your little welding space is working for you.

Only guessing for your "vacuum fume extractor thingie", but I've heard that those Kirby Vacuum Cleaners do everything, especially sucking, ha.

Ya might look at HF for a 8" - ?" diameter exhaust fan, maybe about $50-$80?

Just a thought from your pic, looks like you might be getting some arcing from your weld material to your welding table because of all those little "dingle berries" (weld splatter) stuck to your table?

To correct that condition, if it were me, I'd grind the table surface smooth with maybe a 60-80 grit sanding disc, and/or clamp your weld material to the table/clamp your ground clamp to your weld material.

It looks like a fun learning curve for you.

KC

 

[grsthegreat]

im wondering if all you need is a large box fan in window to draw out the smoke. i had to go with a high flow wall unit due to my plasma table. it does suck everything out. especially all the heat in the shop in the winter if i use it. makes a nice warm shop like a refrigerator in a few minutes.. the exhaust fan is the large rectangular item on wall at end of table. Vent closes when fan is off. its a 240 volt unit. moves a heck of alot of air....and dang noisy.

 

[GeneV]

Gene, Looks like your little welding space is working for you.

Only guessing for your "vacuum fume extractor thingie", but I've heard that those Kirby Vacuum Cleaners do everything, especially sucking, ha.

Ya might look at HF for a 8" - ?" diameter exhaust fan, maybe about $50-$80?

Just a thought from your pic, looks like you might be getting some arcing from your weld material to your welding table because of all those little "dingle berries" (weld splatter) stuck to your table?

To correct that condition, if it were me, I'd grind the table surface smooth with maybe a 60-80 grit sanding disc, and/or clamp your weld material to the table/clamp your ground clamp to your weld material.

It looks like a fun learning curve for you.

KC

I'm having a blast KC, that's for sure. I'm getting arcing mostly from the electrode sticking when I start welding. While prying it off, I got the metal flopping all over the table, getting all sparkly and stuff lol. Good tip about clamping it down, and I will grind the table a little, surface is getting a little rough, yeh.

 

[GeneV]

im wondering if all you need is a large box fan in window to draw out the smoke. i had to go with a high flow wall unit due to my plasma table. it does suck everything out. especially all the heat in the shop in the winter if i use it. makes a nice warm shop like a refrigerator in a few minutes.View attachment 669528. the exhaust fan is the large rectangular item on wall at end of table. Vent closes when fan is off. its a 240 volt unit. moves a heck of alot of air....and dang noisy.

Yeh, the winter is what I'm preparing for, I need to keep the place warm. All I got is electric space heaters in there, pricey running them as is when everything is closed off. That's why I'm trying to balance adequate cfm movement to get the fumes out without overdoing it and sucking out all my heat...as well as my air lol. I like breathing air.