2210 or 4110

rockyridgefarm · Jun 24, 2004

Don't let the engine HP ratings confuse you, the 4110 will do everything the 2210 will with less HP, 

Both have the same 3TNE74 engine, they just get rated differently due to some reason that SCUTS get rated at higher RPMs...

Ledgemere Farm · Jun 24, 2004

My first tractor purchase was a 20HP Cub Cadet. I thought it would be big enough to handle all of my needs. Indeed, the engine was enough, the ride was comfortable, etc. It was a GREAT tractor. Trouble was, the lift capacity and mounting of the loader weren't measuring up to what I found myself getting into. I probably wouldn't be too concerned about 3PH lift capacitybecause both tractors will undoubtedly lift any attachment made for that size machine. Think about LOADER capacity. If your bucket only picks up 650#, you aren't going to have a good time driving into a pile of wet gravel and coming out with a full bucket. I am not saying you won't, but you will need to work at it. Now, I have a BIG tractor, that lifts, digs, and hauls anything I ever dreamed of, but I wish I had kept my LITTLE tractor for those back and forth trips across the lawns and all of the other things that LITTLE tractors are great for. Lucky for you, the 4110 really isn't much bigger than the 2210. I guess my advice to you is to try both, thinnk about what you REALLY want to do, and then buy. Good luck! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

timb · Jun 24, 2004

I hope this doesn't seem like a dumb question...

I've been looking at much bigger tractors for other reasons but I have been keeping an eye on these small-end CUTs and SCUTs as perhaps a future replacement for my JD318.

The thing that confuses me is I guess I don't 'get' the point of the 2210. I know there are quite a few very happy 2210 owners on here, so I don't mean to sound disparaging, just confused. Other than being *very* slightly cheaper, what does the 2210 do better than the 4110? Virtually the same engine and PTO hp, yet the 4110 has significantly better hydraulics, a normal Cat I hitch with much better lift, bigger tires, more ground clearance - but is still so close to the same length/width/weight/turning radius that I would be surprised if there would be any noticeable difference in lawn manuverability (or marking).

I could see choosing between an "X" series and a CUT based on personal needs, but once you pick the 'tractor' fork in the road - where does the 2210 fit?

Tim

beenthere · Jun 24, 2004

The 2210 fits between the X500's (4wd) with smaller tires and the 4110 size with bigger tires. The 2210 probably fits a future series change (as mentioned) and will make more sense then. Now, the buyer just needs to decide what is wanted, and the 2210 doesn't have to "make sense" to anyone else. Compared to the X500's, the 2210's are pretty close in price. They have fewer conveniences, but a ROPS. Lots of choices to make. Storage size is another consideration. Bucket size is another. Attachments is another.

Likely, market share is a motivating factor for so many choices Deere offers too. And probably only Deere really knows why. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Compared to a 318? No comparison /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

om21braz · Jun 24, 2004

I'd say the 2210 is Deere's answer to the Kubota BX-2230 in price and abilities, heck, even the number is similar.

Dutch445 · Jun 24, 2004

I have to agree, I think it's sole purpose was to compete with the Bota. A 455 (X495 today) wasn't 4WD, and a 4110 was too much money and more tractor. It is amazing at how well it is selling though. I almost compare it to the L series marketing, bringing Deere into segments it wasn't strong in so it can gain market share. Seems that's what it's all about.

KNotMe · Jun 24, 2004

"I hope this doesn't seem like a dumb question...

I've been looking at much bigger tractors for other reasons but I have been keeping an eye on these small-end CUTs and SCUTs as perhaps a future replacement for my JD318.

The thing that confuses me is I guess I don't 'get' the point of the 2210." 

The tractor manufacturers have recognized the needs of a new category of owners, who have a fairly large property mostly developed (lawn, trail, pond, orchards, garden) so will require a machine with the most of the capabilities of the full sized CUTs but a smaller less frame. Cruising this and similar boards there are numerous posts regarding the benefits of bigger machines, but most of these jobs are not maintenance jobs, hence the need for the more capable machines.

JD did not get the point of the 2210 too, in early 2002 it made reference to a so called subcompact tractor by a different manufacturer before it saw the light and produced its own.

timb · Jun 24, 2004

( The tractor manufacturers have recognized the needs of a new category of owners, who have a fairly large property mostly developed (lawn, trail, pond, orchards, garden) so will require a machine with the most of the capabilities of the full sized CUTs but a smaller less frame. )

My point exactly - I have no problem with a small and flexible machine - like I said I woudn't mind having something in this size - and the 2210 by itself seems like a very nice small tractor. But taken in context of the rest of the lineup - what exactly does the 2210 do that the 4110 won't do (and probably do better?). Other than height/tire size, there doesn't seem to be any meaningful difference in engine, physical tractor size, features, or manuverability - and the 4110 does not seem to be enough heavier to make any difference. In fact equally equipped a huskier driver on a 2210 would probably outweigh a slimmer operator on a 4110. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

So to my mind the 2210 does not seem to bring anything new to the table. Now if it were a 1000 or 1200 lb. class machine but built more with the design approach of a CUT than a typical GT it might fill a gap. But I really don't see what gap it fits - other than tire size it appears virtually redundent to the 4110.

Tim

rockyridgefarm · Jun 24, 2004

You know, sitting up in a 9000 series cab, I bet its hard to see the difference between a 4410 and a 2210....

Maybe its where you are coming from that matters.

No doubt about the marketing angle.

mhalla · Jun 24, 2004

( the 2210 does not seem to bring anything new to the table)

When I was looking at the differences between a 2210 and 4110 besides the obvious difference in price and limited cat 1 - 3PH, I was attracted to the lower ground clearance of the 2210 translating into a lower center of gravity making me feel more comfortable mowing my hills.

Granted, others would see the lower ground clearance of a 2210 as a disadvantage though it does bring something different to the table.

Mike