The filings you are finding concern me. Makes me wanna check mine....
How many hours are on your 2210? I have 395. Does your transmission make more noise than the motor when the transmission is under a load?
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How many hours are on your 2210? I have 395. Does your transmission make more noise than the motor when the transmission is under a load?
I got the tranny in neutral so now I can turn it. I can hear the noise while spinning the assembly. The noise is definitely in there. I believe it is coming from the two beveled gears on this photo. I am seeing no odd wear but maybe this is just out of adjustment. Usually you can shim the pinion to change the mesh. I will look in the manual to see if that is doable
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I feel your pain. You are in DEEP now with no answers.
The only way I ever hear my drive train is if I have a severe load on it and it's about to bog down. My unit has 475hrs.
Do you mean you can turn the unit by hand now and hear a whiney noise??
The only way I ever hear my drive train is if I have a severe load on it and it's about to bog down. My unit has 475hrs.
Do you mean you can turn the unit by hand now and hear a whiney noise??
My tranny would whine on all but the lightest loads. For example, it would whine driving on flat pavement.
I checked those gears out in place. No odd wear but my suspicion is that the gears are meshed too tight. I have seen this with other straight cut gears. Mesh them too tight and they will roar. I wonder if I can push that beveled gear back a thousandth of an inch or so. If not, maybe I will just replace them.
When I turn the large bull gear, it turns the countershaft gears. The whine I hear from the counterparts gears is the noise I hear while driving the tractor.
I checked those gears out in place. No odd wear but my suspicion is that the gears are meshed too tight. I have seen this with other straight cut gears. Mesh them too tight and they will roar. I wonder if I can push that beveled gear back a thousandth of an inch or so. If not, maybe I will just replace them.
When I turn the large bull gear, it turns the countershaft gears. The whine I hear from the counterparts gears is the noise I hear while driving the tractor.
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Again, if you are saying you hear the whine when you turn the gears by hand, you are not hearing gear whine. You are hearing bearing or seal whine. You can't turn the gears fast enough or with enough load to create whine by hand.
I'd want to go real slow with this project and apply the K.I.S.S. principle. Keep It Simple Stupid. (Not calling you stupid) If there's no obvious gear damage visually, then they are fine.
If they are set too close, then a bearing or shim or something else is the culprit. If that's true, then how did that happen? Maybe assembled wrong, but very doubtful, cause it would have ate itself before now.
Might be something so simple as a snap ring failure??
Or may be whine in the hydraulic motor rather than the transmission??
Sorry I can't be more help. Wish I were there to help. I really enjoy these mystery hunts!!!
Found something interesting. The beveled counter shaft gears are cast iron. They machined around the perimeter but the tooth contact points are cast finish. All other gears have machined surfaces. Also, the ring gear floats on the geared what so it's tolerance can be variable. I will ask JD if these parts are still made this way.
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Does anyone have a good source for JD parts at decent prices? Looks like 9 of 10 dealers seem to charge the full retail price on parts. Any dealer recommendations would be appreciated.
FYI, the local JD dealer wants $220 for the bevelled gear set. That seems steep for a cast gear!
Scot
FYI, the local JD dealer wants $220 for the bevelled gear set. That seems steep for a cast gear!
Scot
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WHile the unit is apart, I am taking time to inspect many of the wearable parts internally. Looked over the pto brake and clutch. Brake lookes ok per the manual. Clutch measures 2.17 mm and failure is 2.7. That passes. Atleast that is one thing I do not have to replace or disassemble. Going to look into Hydro motor next.
Just got a call from the local JD dealer about the beveled gears. I asked them to check if the new gear teeth are a cast finish or machined. The parts manager indicated that the tooth faces are machined. If this is accurate, then this is clearly a change in process. I think machined teeth will be much quieter.
One more place to check for noise is in the hydo motor. I will break that open in a few days. Too many things going on.
One more place to check for noise is in the hydo motor. I will break that open in a few days. Too many things going on.
Just got a call from the local JD dealer about the beveled gears. I asked them to check if the new gear teeth are a cast finish or machined. The parts manager indicated that the tooth faces are machined. If this is accurate, then this is clearly a change in process. I think machined teeth will be much quieter.
One more place to check for noise is in the hydo motor. I will break that open in a few days. Too many things going on.
One more place to check for noise is in the hydo motor. I will break that open in a few days. Too many things going on.
