2305 v. 2720

[orlo]

John:

If mowing will be a primary duty (Finish mowing that is) the 2305, although much slower on the hydraulics and lifting than the 2520, 2320, etc. is the mowing champ. It's geared for about 9mph wide open in high and you can mow fine in high range.

 

[bandit67]

jcmseven,

Take a look at this picture: Moving some fill pictures from home & garden photos on webshots.

I was able to climb all the way to the top of the newly placed steep pile of fill. The 30hp engine would work, but could make it up in M range with a bucket full and the backhoe on the back, and with absolutely no problem in L range.

Also, that 30hp engine is working at 8500 feet above sea level, so it is losing approximately 35% of it's power at this altitude. There isn't much of my property that is flat, aside from a few areas that I've built up or dug out in the last year.

If you aren't happy with the 2 range on your property, I have no doubt that a 3 range machine would work just fine for you.

 

[jcmseven]

Perhaps this 2305 is doing a better job than I give credit. It will climb my drive in high range, which I am interested to see if can be done on a 2320. I also might have an "in" to try a 3030 Kubota also. I hate to sound non-committal, but I just do not want to get a machine that does not fit my needs. Having used larger machines in the past I did not realize that a 2048 BB is too heavy for a 2305. This is perhaps why it struggled to pull it. Though only 48" it is a full Cat 1 BB and weighes nearly 400 pounds, v. the 1048L which weighes 150 pounds less and apparently is matched to the tractor. I really WOULD like a 2720, but it is quite expensive for something just to box blade, move a little snow and mow.

John M

 

[JiminGa]

there is my main issue with the 2305...limited cat one with no position control, you can't rent the "L" implements so you have to purchase things you may rarely use. And you have to guess on height or add check chains.

 

[whoodle]

I just drove a 2305 today with the intent of supplementing my 110 tlb on very steep terrain. It is snowy and bitter cold (0) today so my interview with the little machine was brief and flat. I did notice the high high range, but I have gotten used to mostly low around here. The 110 I can use for some things in mid range, but never high. On my trails where I plan to use the 2305 the 110 cannot go even on low, and my rtv 900 must travel exclusively in low. However, faster would be uncomfortable. I would like to mow my driveway with the 2305, and I wonder if it will go in high but not full speed. I do not plan on getting a loader. I would also bushhog my trails with the 2305. Some of the lawns along my drive are 23% grades.(23 vert, in 100 horizontal) Is this the ballpark you all were talking about? I am also looking at a bx2350 but have not yet driven. The 2305 seemed to best the kubota in initial survey.

 

[jcmseven]

whoodle,

My driveway has an average gradient of 18% and is nearly 30% at the top. I have several grades of around 25-30% at my home. In transport mode, the 2305 would climb all of them, but going up my drive with a lifted box blade and loader it took some feathering of the pedal and full-on throttle to prevent significant bogging of the engine. This, of course, was the same drive that repeatedly stalled the 4310 I used to have, though. With the PTO going, some of your engine power is going to be robbed to power the attachment. I would say the 2305 is your best bet to mow those type slopes but I suspect even it will require low range to do so, based on my recent findings without using a PTO attachment. Although I am not interested in one myself, I have read that Hew Holland offers a 29 hp sub compact tractor. I think that machine would handle about any hill just fine--in any range.

John M

 

[Engine66]

I'm not clear on all the intended uses of the 2 you are considering, but they are different and previous posters pointed out some qualities of each. I have a 2305 and a 4720...a 2720 would nicely fill the void for tasks too big for the 2305 and too small for the 4720. The 2305 is a fantastic mowing animal and I think removing the MMM is pretty painless and quick. The 200cx loader is slow and limited to light duty. Same with rear implements...

My take on the limitatons of the 2305 are speed, ground clearance, and light duty loader/rear implement capabilities. It can't go everywhere as it has limited ground clearance and limited, slow loader capacity. However, the strengths are mowing ability, ease of use, easy on the turf, ability to run small chores around the house area, etc. I use the 2305 for a lot of little stuff...I mow, clear snow from those tight places near the house, relocate implements for my 4720, haul firewood and rocks across the grass without trashing my yard, and all kinds of other things. I think you can probably do all of these same things with the 2720 and then some...but there would be a little more ground compaction if your on any type of wet soil. Also the loader would be quicker, but still limited capacity for the money.

I have sat on a 2720 and test drove one...very nice stance and comfortable. My 2305 on the other hand never ceases to amaze me at it's capability and is very comfortable as well. I wish I could take it out in the woods, but the ground clearence is low enough that I avoid getting myself in trouble.

If you don't need the turning radius of the 2305 or have sensitive, wet ground, then get the 2720 and enjoy the greater capabilities. Both are sweet machines...I give them both thumbs up...no matter which you pick, you will be happy! Enjoy and post some pics.

 

[ChuckinNH]

"Perhaps this 2305 is doing a better job than I give credit. It will climb my drive in high range, which I am interested to see if can be done on a 2320."
I doubt that it will John. The gearing seems to be the same on both tractors, and the 2320 is turning a much larger wheel. I looked at both, and liked them very much, but ended up buying a Kubota B2620. When I had my BX, I found myself going from low to high range, and back often, but on the B2620 I usually leave it in "M" and forget where it is. I wish you could get all of the features of both on the same tractor!

 

[jcmseven]

I feel as though (and I might be) perpetuating this thread to the point of nausea but I had another question for the group. I have now procured the 2320, but am OOT through Christmas day, so it will be next weekend before I get to try it out on my drive and property. Visually, and size wise, I like it better than the 2305. I cannot tell otherwise as I just loaded it onto the trailer for now. One thing I noticed almost immediately is that the engine sounds entirely different from that of the 2305. I have always assumed the tractors had the same engine based on stats, but this one clearly has a different sound, despite appearing to have the same or similar exhaust. I am hoping this machine also will have more torque as it is heavier but it appears both machines on paper have 41.27 pound.feet at 3000 rpm rated speed. Interestingly, if I recall correctly the old 20 hp 4110 and the 22 hp 2210 were rated at different RPM's (2650 for the 4110 and 3000 for the 2210) and that the 4110 had more torque at rated speed than did the 2210, despite being rated with two less HP. Does this still carry with these new machines? I wonder if the 2320 has more torque also, but is a victim of RPM criteria for rating purposes??? Maybe it is the exact same powerplant but it sounds so much different I had to ask. Thanks.

John M

 

[AKfish]

Deere website has them looking pretty much identical - engine wise. Might be a difference in exhaust configuration...

AKfish