2555/2565 EGR system issues.

[Jabonee]

Its recently come to light that Mahindra is having issues with the 2555 and 2565 tractors. Specifically EGR /MIL light coming on. Poor or not very hot heat from cab units. Temp gauge not moving off peg in cold weather. Engine spudering/puffing smoke. If your an owner of one of these tractors or dealer with one your trying to repair it, Please post your comments and the details. I'm going to Mahindra service school next week and Id like to bring and or reinforce the point that there is a problem with these units and a solution is needed ASAP.:thumbsup:

 

[Glrret]

I have a 2555 with 17 hours on it, I know that is not a lot of hours, but I definitely noticed poor or no heat in the cab, the 4 back vents don't even blow any air its like they are not hooked up. My temp gauge is on clod all the time even after putting cardboard in front of the radiator. The engine seems to run poorly, spudering/puffing smoke like a say. I've also had a problem with the battery not holding a charge. I was going to wait until I hit 25 hours and contact my dealer but I may contact him earlier if these seems to be a chronic problems.

 

[Jabonee]

I have a 2555 with 17 hours on it, I know that is not a lot of hours, but I definitely noticed poor or no heat in the cab, the 4 back vents don't even blow any air its like they are not hooked up. My temp gauge is on clod all the time even after putting cardboard in front of the radiator. The engine seems to run poorly, spudering/puffing smoke like a say. I've also had a problem with the battery not holding a charge. I was going to wait until I hit 25 hours and contact my dealer but I may contact him earlier if these seems to be a chronic problems.

Thanks for your reply. Thats one for Bloomsburg next week. I strongly urge you to contact your dealer. The more feed back Mahindra gets about these issues the faster they will address them.:thumbsup:

 

[Navasot]

The rear vents in that cab series are not hooked up, just air vents

 

[Navasot]

I have a 2555 with 17 hours on it, I know that is not a lot of hours, but I definitely noticed poor or no heat in the cab, the 4 back vents don't even blow any air its like they are not hooked up. My temp gauge is on clod all the time even after putting cardboard in front of the radiator. The engine seems to run poorly, spudering/puffing smoke like a say. I've also had a problem with the battery not holding a charge. I was going to wait until I hit 25 hours and contact my dealer but I may contact him earlier if these seems to be a chronic problems.

On your tractor be sure that the hyd lever for the rear remotes is not engaged... the sticker dosnt quiet line up with the lever position and is easy to mistake. just be sure its in the middle position. Not saying that's whats going on but something to check.

 

[Glrret]

I know exactly what your referring to I have experienced that issue. I have a Backhoe on my tractor that runs off the rear remotes, I have disconnected the hoses for the backhoe so that I can run my plow angle and if, I forget to go back to the neutral position I can feel the hydraulics lugging down the engine. Whenever I feel the sputter and see puffs of smoke I check the lever, 99% of the time I have the valve in the neutral position, I don't go by the lever position I feel for the detente on the valve.

Interestingly I just took about 45 minutes to use the tractor to dig a hole and it didn't sputter and the engine actually heated up to normal temp and the gauge was registering normal. The temp here today is close to 40 and I still have the cardboard in front of the radiator. I've been dealing with it running rough and smoking for over two weeks now and today after I mentioned it, the darn thing runs normal... FIGURES!!!

 

[Glrret]

The rear vents in that cab series are not hooked up, just air vents

SO the rear vents don't serve as defroster vents for the rear and side windows?? What kind of joke is that?

 

[Navasot]

You can adjust the two with the extension tubes to face sideways to help with the windows. but no who told you it was for defrost?

 

[Nortac]

The rear vent are return vents and will not blow any air out. They suck it in. The front 4 vents are the only vents that will blow out.

I have a new 2565 with only 14 hours on it but I have run it pretty hard. It's not cold that often in Texas but when it was in the 40's I ran the heater. It took a little while but it got way too hot for me. My temp gauge runs fairly quickly up to just below the mid point on the gauge whether I'm working a load or just driving. It hasn't sputtered any at this point. I would like to know more about these issues thouh.

 

[bluefin650]

I was at my dealer today and he said that mahindra was working on the problem. ( something about putting something inline to reduce the flow of the coolant in the system to allow the motor temp to get higher) He said to put cardboard in front of the radiator for now.

 

[Jabonee]

I was at my dealer today and he said that mahindra was working on the problem. ( something about putting something inline to reduce the flow of the coolant in the system to allow the motor temp to get higher) He said to put cardboard in front of the radiator for now.

Not sure if cardboard would do anything. The issue if I'm understanding my DSRs explaintion is the engine is not getting hot enough to open the thermostat.Also I was told that on the 2225/2265 there is no external way of restricting coolant flow.:confused3:

 

[Jabonee]

The rear vent are return vents and will not blow any air out. They suck it in. The front 4 vents are the only vents that will blow out.

I have a new 2565 with only 14 hours on it but I have run it pretty hard. It's not cold that often in Texas but when it was in the 40's I ran the heater. It took a little while but it got way too hot for me. My temp gauge runs fairly quickly up to just below the mid point on the gauge whether I'm working a load or just driving. It hasn't sputtered any at this point. I would like to know more about these issues thouh.

You being in a warm climate part of the country will probably not experience any issues with the EGR system.:thumbsup:

 

[Navasot]

Yup... iv got many 2500 series out there and havnt seen one with this issue

 

[Glrret]

I had a conversation yesterday with my dealer, the topic of discussion was the subject of this thread. He asked when they could come pickup my tractor and see what could be done to address the problems with it. After explaining the list of problems and symptoms, I asked just exactly what would they do to fix it. And to his credit he said he wasn't sure, that he would have to contact the DM. After explaining that at this point Mahindra hasn't determined what the fix will be, we agreed that the tractor can just set here in my barn and be available when I need it verses sitting in the shop. I'd rather have a tractor that runs poorly than no tractor at all....

The small annoying things like hose, and fitting leaks I can fix myself, there is no reason to haul it to the shop. I also seem to have a bad battery, the tractor only had 15 hours when the cold weather hit and it would not crank even after a heater was blowing onto the intake side of the engine for 2 hours. But after placing the battery on a charger for 2 hours it fired right up, I think I have a bad cell that can't handle the cold. So for the time being while I wait for Mahindra to come up with a solution I'll just turn on the charger when I turn on the heater.

Yes this is a brand new tractor that with the attachments I got cost me over $43k cash (no financing), and I shouldn't be having trouble with it. But my dealer is ready and willing to fix everything (as soon as Mihindra decides what the fix is). And if I'm willing to deal with the shuttering and puffing smoke and charging the battery I can STILL get my livestock feed, driveways and barn yard plowed, and even move some manure, I think I'm still being blessed. I could be worse!!!!

I hope we all hear that Mahindra has a solution soon, the tractors eating up about 5 gal of fuel and hour....:licking:

 

[Jabonee]

I had a conversation yesterday with my dealer, the topic of discussion was the subject of this thread. He asked when they could come pickup my tractor and see what could be done to address the problems with it. After explaining the list of problems and symptoms, I asked just exactly what would they do to fix it. And to his credit he said he wasn't sure, that he would have to contact the DM. After explaining that at this point Mahindra hasn't determined what the fix will be, we agreed that the tractor can just set here in my barn and be available when I need it verses sitting in the shop. I'd rather have a tractor that runs poorly than no tractor at all....

The small annoying things like hose, and fitting leaks I can fix myself, there is no reason to haul it to the shop. I also seem to have a bad battery, the tractor only had 15 hours when the cold weather hit and it would not crank even after a heater was blowing onto the intake side of the engine for 2 hours. But after placing the battery on a charger for 2 hours it fired right up, I think I have a bad cell that can't handle the cold. So for the time being while I wait for Mahindra to come up with a solution I'll just turn on the charger when I turn on the heater.

Yes this is a brand new tractor that with the attachments I got cost me over $43k cash (no financing), and I shouldn't be having trouble with it. But my dealer is ready and willing to fix everything (as soon as Mihindra decides what the fix is). And if I'm willing to deal with the shuttering and puffing smoke and charging the battery I can STILL get my livestock feed, driveways and barn yard plowed, and even move some manure, I think I'm still being blessed. I could be worse!!!!

I hope we all hear that Mahindra has a solution soon, the tractors eating up about 5 gal of fuel and hour....:licking:

The battery has a one year warranty. If you dealer is close enough you may want to remove it and let the dealer test it. They may hand you a new one. I may have a little more on the engine issues next week after Mahindra school.

 

[bmohr1954]

Your operators manual will tell you they are return air vents, open they suck air from the cab and reheat it along with air from the outside, closed the unit only pulls air from the outside through the filters located on the cab under the roof. There was a improvement made couple years ago to add extensions to the front vents to bring cool/warm closer to the operator, ( I think that was only on the 10 series tractors)

 

[Glrret]

I thought I did a good job of reading the (not so great) owners manual, I guess I missed that...

 

[Cleatis18]

Mine too has this issue in cold weather though mine only sputters and smokes when I'm at 1350 to 1550 rpm. Anything above or below that runs great until the motor warms up then I can run at any rpm with no smoke or sputter. I pulled out the radiator screen and zip tied a piece of cardboard to it that covers the entire thing and now it warms up just fine for the most part. Still takes a while when it is really cold outside, low teens, it's been in the mid 30's to low 40's here lately and the full coverage is just a bit too much in these temps. I made another cover with a hole in the center to allow some airflow to get through and that so far is working good. This tractor would have benefited greatly from an electric fan setup like a vehicle or at least a fan clutch so the fan isn't running all the time, though I realize on equipment they generally don't do these things.

 

[melroebobcat]

I am a Mahindra dealer, what my service manager has said is the EGR COOLER's have a hairline crack that may only be present when the tractor warms up. EGR Cooler +EGR WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED> Reason being the EGR cooler is burning coolant and stuffing the oily brown residue into the EGR clogging it up. No Technical Bulletin has been released . Pm me with questions on this model if you have any questions. ALSO it is highly recommend to install a restrictor into the coolant Line Going to the Engine Oil Cooler Mounted on the Right side of engine if in seat.

* I WILL POST THE SPECS FOR THE COOLANT Restrictor tomorrow, This Is Certified Information Coming from Mahindra
***Also some Inside information has been that they are working on EPA approval for a software update for these models because they are running to rich from factory

so 4 issues with these on most tractors. The Vendor Making The EGR Cooler knew they are bad Mahindra is no longer buying from this Vendor
***Call your dealer and tell them to replace the EGR cooler and EGR and reset codes and that will make a huge different, as well as install the restrictor which I will post specs on tomarrow. PM me with any questions. I handle Mahindra Service/Warranty and We've Encountered all these problems above and found the solutions.

 

[Glrret]

So has anything come out for a solution to these problems, my dealer says he hasn't heard anything.