25HP HST tractors and low range speed.

   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #81  
I think you will find you want to take the backhoe and FEL off for mowing. This also lowers the center of gravity.

And makes cutting much easier
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #82  
Nice looking place. If they know you are a serious buyer a good dealer will bring you a tractor to test on your property. Before spending that amount of money I would definitely do a trial run mowing before I bought any tractor to see if you like the look of the finished product. Most TLBs come with R4 tires. If you are not moving and turn the front wheels it will tear up the grass, especially with the weight of the FEL and BH attached. That means you will probably remove and store the FEL and BH since mowing will be the most frequent job so that takes up as much space as another tractor. Even with them off when moving you will get some torn up ground, especially if it is slick and wet mowing on that slope.

If you want that manicured lawn look you will need turf tires on the tractor. You won't like turf tires back in the woods or on wet ground. It will get stuck or develop flat tires.

For that manicured lawn look I would stick with what works or try a ZTR, especially the newer models with a steering wheel. They work better on slopes as the front wheels are not on castors. I tried the finish mower behind the tractor route to mow 2 acres. Mine is flat with some trees. Ended up getting a ZTR for the speed and the appearance.
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed.
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#83  
Personally I like the 3 point mowers.
I can remove/install the rear mount mower in minutes and have a far less debris blowing on me on dry days compared to a belly mower.

I can remove or install the backhoe on my Kioti in 5 minutes. (the subframe coming off with the backhoe does take up more room for storage)

The storage is one of the things that I was considering. My garage bay is 3 3 bays, the bays are 26 feet deep and 12 feet wide with no partitioning walls, the left and right most bays have long term storage vehicles in them, I have a 1971 Chevelle SS under a cover against the one far wall, and the other end bay has a 1979 F-250 sled pulling truck that retired a decade ago... but sits because of the emotional attachment. The center bay is the "working bay" with 2kayaks along the back wall, a Yamaha Rhino and Warn 72" snow plow, a Craftsman garden tractor and 2 Craftsman push mowers. Being that the Chevelle is pushed to the far wall, part of that bay is used for stacks of sled pulling wheels/tires for different track conditions as well as large Christmas decorations. Trust me... I have 10 lbs of crap in a 5 lb bag! But we do keep saying that one day we need to pull the sled pulling truck out and move it up to the upper level garages (we have 4 bays above, 2 bays are 13'x36' where I have the shop area) and start pulling it apart to part out the truck as it is worth a great deal more in pieces than it is as a whole. Sled pulling has moved far beyond our 2005-ish build, so the truck is sort of lost in time at this point. Anyone looking for a king pin D60 front axle or a narrowed D80 rear... or an Art Carr full roller C6 with reverse valve body... or an MSD 7AL ingnition system that attaches to a laptop for individual cylinder management? How about a fuel system to support 2,000 HP or a complete hydraulic ram steering system? It's all worth money laying on the floor, but I couldn't get $3500 for the truck complete (minus engine) 2 years ago.

I think you will find you want to take the backhoe and FEL off for mowing. This also lowers the center of gravity.

I don't plan to mow with FEL/BH. They would be on wheeled skids and pushed over by the Chevelle as tight as possible. I would mount them for the times I wanted to use them.

And makes cutting much easier

Nice looking place. If they know you are a serious buyer a good dealer will bring you a tractor to test on your property. Before spending that amount of money I would definitely do a trial run mowing before I bought any tractor to see if you like the look of the finished product. Most TLBs come with R4 tires. If you are not moving and turn the front wheels it will tear up the grass, especially with the weight of the FEL and BH attached. That means you will probably remove and store the FEL and BH since mowing will be the most frequent job so that takes up as much space as another tractor. Even with them off when moving you will get some torn up ground, especially if it is slick and wet mowing on that slope.

If you want that manicured lawn look you will need turf tires on the tractor. You won't like turf tires back in the woods or on wet ground. It will get stuck or develop flat tires.

For that manicured lawn look I would stick with what works or try a ZTR, especially the newer models with a steering wheel. They work better on slopes as the front wheels are not on castors. I tried the finish mower behind the tractor route to mow 2 acres. Mine is flat with some trees. Ended up getting a ZTR for the speed and the appearance.

Dealers tell me that a 3 blade Woods mower would provide a BETTER finish than my Craftsman deck does because the Woods would have 18000 feet per minute tip speeds, considerably higher than my consumer stamped deck and that the woods would have much better air flow to pull grass upwards for a flatter cut.

I would love a dealer to bring a unit over to test, but I'm not getting the feeling that this is a normal practice in this area. The Mahindra dealer 8 miles away said no, not happening. I can't imagine the guys in Butler that are 40 minutes away having the time or care to load up a tractor and haul it to me. Maybe they would when I showed up with money hand to get serious on making the buy.
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #84  
Would have thought T&C would be at least a little accomodating...Lots of inventory (relative) and don't see much activity...Oh well I guess.

Off topic--What year Chevelle?
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed.
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#85  
Would have thought T&C would be at least a little accomodating...Lots of inventory (relative) and don't see much activity...Oh well I guess.

Off topic--What year Chevelle?

Tom at Town and Country is accommodating to me while I am there asking questions and prices over and over as I move around the inventory... I stopped yesterday and looked again at the 1526 TLB that he has, set up with TLB they are around $24,000. I wish like heck that he would offer to bring it and the mower to my place and demo it... I really hate the concept of paying $25,000 to $30,000 to demo for myself. What if it's truly a no-go? Then I am really screwed!

No matter what I do get, I think fluid filled tires and wheel spacers will be a must for safety.

The Chevelle is a black/white stripes 1971 SS, I got it for my 16th birthday. The car is the same year as I am, and my daughter is named Chevelle. I'll die with the car... and hopefully a tractor. It is a 350 SS/Auto/Air/Cowl Induction car. The original wheels were gone when I got it, I put 8" wide Corvette Rally wheels on it to replace the Crager SS chrome wheels the previous owner had on it. I also damaged the engine back in the late 80's and did a mild 383ci build that has been in it ever since. My 22 year old boy sat on the fender the last time that car saw sunlight... he was around 5 years old. It sets in the garage under a cover waiting for me to decide it is time to resurrect it. Some day it may be a "barn find" after I die.... who knows.
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #86  
I just bought a 3 range HST Kubota B2601with FEL, MMM and land pride front blade QA. I was looking at Aa Kioti 2510 and the lack of 3 ranges a a slow low range stopped me from purchasing the Kioti although I did like the Kyoto other than only having 2 range HST.
Dealer would let me demo mower on Kioti so I don't know quality of cut.
The Kubota mows supprisingly well for me anyway.
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed.
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#87  
I just bought a 3 range HST Kubota B2601with FEL, MMM and land pride front blade QA. I was looking at Aa Kioti 2510 and the lack of 3 ranges a a slow low range stopped me from purchasing the Kioti although I did like the Kyoto other than only having 2 range HST.
Dealer would let me demo mower on Kioti so I don't know quality of cut.
The Kubota mows supprisingly well for me anyway.

For the same reason as you mention, the 2510 is less than desired. It is a shame that these various companies shy away from the 3 range in the small CUT class. Kubota is fairly unique with that.

I plan to go test drive a Kioti 2610 HST, but for now Armstrong does not have the HST in stock, only the manual. I may have to wait a bit...
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #88  
For the same reason as you mention, the 2510 is less than desired. It is a shame that these various companies shy away from the 3 range in the small CUT class. Kubota is fairly unique with that.

I plan to go test drive a Kioti 2610 HST, but for now Armstrong does not have the HST in stock, only the manual. I may have to wait a bit...
I found the Kubota to be more refined and smoother running especially the engine.

I also live on hilly terrain and the B2610 will mow it in Mid range. I would guestimate 30 degree incline.
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #89  
Don't know if you have a dealer close, but I just learned about these Rural King tractors. Might be worth checking out. RK Tractors : Rural King
 
   / 25HP HST tractors and low range speed. #90  
Tom at Town and Country is accommodating to me while I am there asking questions and prices over and over as I move around the inventory... I stopped yesterday and looked again at the 1526 TLB that he has, set up with TLB they are around $24,000. I wish like heck that he would offer to bring it and the mower to my place and demo it... I really hate the concept of paying $25,000 to $30,000 to demo for myself. What if it's truly a no-go? Then I am really screwed!

No matter what I do get, I think fluid filled tires and wheel spacers will be a must for safety.

The Chevelle is a black/white stripes 1971 SS, I got it for my 16th birthday. The car is the same year as I am, and my daughter is named Chevelle. I'll die with the car... and hopefully a tractor. It is a 350 SS/Auto/Air/Cowl Induction car. The original wheels were gone when I got it, I put 8" wide Corvette Rally wheels on it to replace the Crager SS chrome wheels the previous owner had on it. I also damaged the engine back in the late 80's and did a mild 383ci build that has been in it ever since. My 22 year old boy sat on the fender the last time that car saw sunlight... he was around 5 years old. It sets in the garage under a cover waiting for me to decide it is time to resurrect it. Some day it may be a "barn find" after I die.... who knows.

Glad to hear T&C is working with you...Drive by there every day coming home from work. The 1526 is a pretty good size machine, could do a lot with that I'd think. People I know with Mahindra's seem to be pretty happy with them, so that's a good thing.

I have a '70 Chevelle SS396 I bought when I was 18. Nevada car. Sadly been sitting under cover in the back of the garage for too long..I feel your pain on that. Gotta get the wife's Nova back on the road first, that won't be too bad (I hope)...Then the Chevelle. I'm going to town on it when I do dig it out, so I gotta get myself committed to it.
 

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