tony123
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Yotang, Thanks so much for your information. I look forward to hearing your explanation!
3 cyl vs. 2 cyl?
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yotang224
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>Mr. Ginormous,
I became a hijacker here. And last one is so long.
I apologize for them. I am going to end my contribution here.
>Mr. Scotty Dive,
I could not get any information of YM2020D's parts manual, even in Japanese site.
However, if you can get YM220's (export model), it may be similar.
Sorry, I am not sure.
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When I was a child, 1960s, there were about 5.5 million farm families in Japan.
My parents' home was also one of them.
I remember that the big black cow(or bull?) for farming was kept in my house.
With the economic growth of the second half of the 1960s, most of those cows was transposed to the machine.
These machines were almost small cultivators(walk behind type) at first.
My father bought a small cultivator in 1963. It was 5 HP KUBOTA.
At the same time, the big cow was gone.
However, It does not need so long time to replace these small cultivators to tractors.
YM1300 came to my house in 1977.
The total number of tractors in Japan became 2 million in short time.
After that, the big wave of industrialization came to Japan.
Almost all small-scale farmers had another work related to industry.
They purchased a highly efficient new machine rapidly using a part of the salary.
In order to finish agricultural work only in weekend.
They replaced the tractor with the same feeling as buying the car in new mode.
The farmer who will replace a tractor in only five years was not unusual.
My father had thought it was crazy.
The Japanese farmer's average area under tillage was only 3 acres at the time.
Japanese farmer's house does not have a lawn. And it is very rare that they use FEL.
Did you understand the reason the number of the hour meter of a Japanese used tractor was so small?
I have no idea who started to export Japanese used tractor to the US at first.
However, I am very glad that those many tractors have the second life in the US.
Now, the number of farmers in Japan is continuing reduction. According to the statistics in 2010, they are about 2.5 million.
Many farmers gave up their jobs and old machines due to their age, like my father.
That is because many farmers' sons moved to urban areas, and do not like inheriting agriculture.
Another reason is that they can not get enough income from agriculture.
Telling the truth, I am one of them too.
I return to my home town occasionally and operate my father's tractor.
I am going to live in a hometown after retirement and to buy a new tractor.
However, if the old tractor YM1300 still runs, I may continue using it.
Then, I am afraid that I have to look for the repair parts in the US.:laughing:
Thanks, Everybody!
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I became a hijacker here. And last one is so long.
I apologize for them. I am going to end my contribution here.
>Mr. Scotty Dive,
I could not get any information of YM2020D's parts manual, even in Japanese site.
However, if you can get YM220's (export model), it may be similar.
Sorry, I am not sure.
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When I was a child, 1960s, there were about 5.5 million farm families in Japan.
My parents' home was also one of them.
I remember that the big black cow(or bull?) for farming was kept in my house.
With the economic growth of the second half of the 1960s, most of those cows was transposed to the machine.
These machines were almost small cultivators(walk behind type) at first.
My father bought a small cultivator in 1963. It was 5 HP KUBOTA.
At the same time, the big cow was gone.
However, It does not need so long time to replace these small cultivators to tractors.
YM1300 came to my house in 1977.
The total number of tractors in Japan became 2 million in short time.
After that, the big wave of industrialization came to Japan.
Almost all small-scale farmers had another work related to industry.
They purchased a highly efficient new machine rapidly using a part of the salary.
In order to finish agricultural work only in weekend.
They replaced the tractor with the same feeling as buying the car in new mode.
The farmer who will replace a tractor in only five years was not unusual.
My father had thought it was crazy.
The Japanese farmer's average area under tillage was only 3 acres at the time.
Japanese farmer's house does not have a lawn. And it is very rare that they use FEL.
Did you understand the reason the number of the hour meter of a Japanese used tractor was so small?
I have no idea who started to export Japanese used tractor to the US at first.
However, I am very glad that those many tractors have the second life in the US.
Now, the number of farmers in Japan is continuing reduction. According to the statistics in 2010, they are about 2.5 million.
Many farmers gave up their jobs and old machines due to their age, like my father.
That is because many farmers' sons moved to urban areas, and do not like inheriting agriculture.
Another reason is that they can not get enough income from agriculture.
Telling the truth, I am one of them too.
I return to my home town occasionally and operate my father's tractor.
I am going to live in a hometown after retirement and to buy a new tractor.
However, if the old tractor YM1300 still runs, I may continue using it.
Then, I am afraid that I have to look for the repair parts in the US.:laughing:
Thanks, Everybody!
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Youtang. Thanks it clears some things up, and gives us some inisight into the area that helps.
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Yotang224, I hope that you continue to stay on this site, and contribute and share your knowledge, experience, and background with us. Thank you for explaining about the mechanization of agriculture in Japan. It is interesting, and similar to what we experienced in this country, but on a more compact scale, and probably with greater efficiency.
What crops does your family grow? I automatically assumed rice, but that would be as one-dimensional as assuming a farmer here grows only corn or wheat. I know from my experience with fruit trees that many of the best varieties of apples, peaches, plums, and other fruit are hybridized in Japan.
I hope you stay and continue to contribute, you are a valuable and appreciated member here. Thank you.
What crops does your family grow? I automatically assumed rice, but that would be as one-dimensional as assuming a farmer here grows only corn or wheat. I know from my experience with fruit trees that many of the best varieties of apples, peaches, plums, and other fruit are hybridized in Japan.
I hope you stay and continue to contribute, you are a valuable and appreciated member here. Thank you.
TGeorge
Member
Yotang, thanks very much! This is the best explanation I have seen. I hope you will continue to post in the forum.
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Ginormous
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Mr. Yotang san,
Thank you for your kind hijacking of this thread. It was very interesting! Feel free to add more. :thumbsup:
clemsonfor
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We can not express how happy and pleased that your here and are sharing your knowlege with us. You truly are an asset.
Someone i think needs to change the tread title from 3 cyl vs 2 cyl/ japaneese story OR better yet have a MOD cut the relevant threads out and then start a new thread with the moved ones, i know it can be done i have seen it i beleive, i think here. That way this little gem of information is not just availible for those of us with nothing better to do than click and read every new thread, so that folks just dont have to stumble upon it.
Your story is similar like another said to here in the US. My dad grew up and is about your same age. They have 130 acres (well i have it now) that was farmed with an old either Allis or Farmall, i cant remember. But there were also Fords and Masseys, JD's in those days. Thats why there are millions of the old fords from the 40's to the late 50's they were our doninant tractor that was cheap easy to fix and worked hard and did 10x the work of the draft animals. Many of these tractors are still around many have been scrapped. But as i m sure you know our tractors are a bit bigger maybe not HP wise but weigh more and are designed to pull plows for our type ground equiptment.
Another question, are the yanmar tillers really cheap and availible over there?
Someone i think needs to change the tread title from 3 cyl vs 2 cyl/ japaneese story OR better yet have a MOD cut the relevant threads out and then start a new thread with the moved ones, i know it can be done i have seen it i beleive, i think here. That way this little gem of information is not just availible for those of us with nothing better to do than click and read every new thread, so that folks just dont have to stumble upon it.
Your story is similar like another said to here in the US. My dad grew up and is about your same age. They have 130 acres (well i have it now) that was farmed with an old either Allis or Farmall, i cant remember. But there were also Fords and Masseys, JD's in those days. Thats why there are millions of the old fords from the 40's to the late 50's they were our doninant tractor that was cheap easy to fix and worked hard and did 10x the work of the draft animals. Many of these tractors are still around many have been scrapped. But as i m sure you know our tractors are a bit bigger maybe not HP wise but weigh more and are designed to pull plows for our type ground equiptment.
Another question, are the yanmar tillers really cheap and availible over there?
Thanks for your contributions to the forum yotang!
We all have wondered what our tractors did and the story of who owned them when in Japan I think about that every time I start mine up.
We all learn from intelligent discussion and we all love historical facts so please keep it up!
We all have wondered what our tractors did and the story of who owned them when in Japan I think about that every time I start mine up.
We all learn from intelligent discussion and we all love historical facts so please keep it up!
tony123
Platinum Member
Thank you so much. I could read First person info on the topic all day long!
I continue to use the keychain that came on my key. Obviously put there by a Japanese farmer, it makes me think of its first life every time I grab it.
I continue to use the keychain that came on my key. Obviously put there by a Japanese farmer, it makes me think of its first life every time I grab it.
shawnjvl
Silver Member
Speaking of 2 vs. 3, I drove a Kioti LB1914 today with 211 hrs. He is asking $5000 for is with finish mower. Compared to my 2000 it has no power and the turning radius was awful, after testing it I would never be happy with it. So I'm keeping the Yanmar.