3 pt. drawbar brackets

[checkers]

I was wondering if anyone might know where I could get a set of brackets that keep the drawbar from turning on the 3 pt. liftarms?

 

[bill177]

My dealer calls them "drawbar clips" and had to order them. I guess not many people use their tractor to move a trailer around. I do, so he ordered them for me.

They are also sometimes called "anti rotation clips."

 

[bramsey]

I just got one off of Ebay for about $44.00 Works great. Here's a link to another one he has for sale.

eBay: Tractor 3-point Hitch Stabilizer. Deere Ford Farmall !! (item 110030596279 end time Sep-14-06 17:25:50 PDT)

 

[checkers]

Thanks for the response guys. I just thought to look at Tractor Supplies website and they have them. That stabilizer looks pretty nice and sturdy. I have a small trailer that I sometimes haul around the property and need them for that. Thanks again.

 

[Neophyte]

Checkers,

You could always spend a little more for one like this. It would act as a drawbar stabilizer and you would get the added benefit of a hitch receiver. It can be purchased through TBN for around $80.

https://www.imcuniverse.com/store/ezmover.htm

 

[roxynoodle]

I have been told it is dangerous to move trailers with anything other than the drawbar. That the trailer could cause the 3ph to raise above the rear axle and cause a rollover? My tractor doesn't have a drawbar, nor does it have anywhere to put one if I made one and I, too, have been considering buying something that attaches to the 3ph. Does anyone care to comment on this for those of us that want to use a 3ph drawbar or one with a stabilizer?

 

[jinman]

Does anyone care to comment on this for those of us that want to use a 3ph drawbar or one with a stabilizer?

This is the setup you need (see attachment). The drawbar stays provide the safety you will need. just don't raise the 3PH with them attached. Notice how they are slightly bowed in my photo? You can buy these stays at Tractor Supply. The drawbar lock even has a cutout for the stay.

 

[mikim]

I made one just like Jim has pictured out of an old piece of angle iron I had laying around. Just torched a slot and bent it - works OK - but I still want a better one with a top link attach point and 2" receiver. I have ideas to use that 2" receiver for other things as well .... like a winch .... and a portable work bench with vise .... still brainstorming...can't wait to retire and move to where my tractor is so I have time to play with it!

 

[Neophyte]

I have been told it is dangerous to move trailers with anything other than the drawbar. That the trailer could cause the 3ph to raise above the rear axle and cause a rollover?

You remove this possibility by using a safety chain between the top link and drawbar (or something else solid) to prevent the 3PH from rising beyond a certain point. Here is a picture of this method.

https://www.imcuniverse.com/store/im/prodphotos/ezmover_chain_200.jpg

The EZmover has a hole in the back of the unit to allow a safety chain to be attached to it.

Like mikim mentioned, a 2" receiver tube is VERY useful for a multitude of things such as ball hitches, pintle hitches, drawbars, carry-alls, a winch, a vice, an electric spreader, a suitcase weight rack, a boom pole, etc. Anything you can weld a 2" tube to, can be mounted to the receiver hitch.

Suitcase Weight Rack:
http://www.summitfab.com/rackinside.gif

Work Platform or Carry-All:
http://www.summitfab.com/10.gif

Plow or subsoiler:
http://www.summitfab.com/plow.gif

Electric Spreaders:
http://www.curtiscabs.com/images/Fast-cast-300.jpg
http://www.curtiscabs.com/images/Fast-cast-2000.jpg

 

[checkers]

As usual all kinds of good info coming in. I definitely want to do the safe thing when pulling something behind the tractor. That being said I was thinking that even though something being pulled on the 3 pt drawbar with the 3pt raised, the pivot point of the 3pt is still below the rear axle of the tractor. I believe that the rollover problem occurs when the load is attached to the tractor above the center plane of the rear axle. I may be 100% wrong about this and would sure like to know. I once rolled a large garden tractor over backwards trying to unroll a heavy steel cable from a spool. I had the cable hooked above the tractor axle and it rolled with no warning in a split second. Fortunately I was thrown clear and only damage was a few bruises, scrapes and pride.

 

[roxynoodle]

Ok, I believe that is correct, the load being pulled must be lower than the rear axle. The people who advised me against using my 3ph to tow seemed to think the hitch could lift in a fraction of a second and cause the rollover. That safety chain idea is great, Neophyte... problem for me is I don't have a drawbar at all so there is nowhere to attach the chain. I may have to visit TSC to find those stays. It would be nice though to move the trailers for mowing with the tractor since I think it would be faster than hooking up to the truck, not to mention the truck is longer and takes up more room.

 

[Neophyte]

That safety chain idea is great, Neophyte... problem for me is I don't have a drawbar at all so there is nowhere to attach the chain.

It doesn't have to be a drawbar necessarily. Do you have any bolts or bolt holes at the rear that you could attach a chain to?

 

[roxynoodle]

The only bolts I have are around the PTO shaft. They are long but not all that thick. Otherwise no holes or I would make a drawbar.

 

[Neophyte]

Roxy,

You could attach a safety chain to one of your lower 3PH pins on the bell housing. Similar to what was discussed in the sway chains post by Jagmandave.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...60929d1157983228-sway-chains-sway-chains2.jpg

 

[Slamfire]

Ford's better idea was a pair of straps bent at one end with a hole big enough for the drawbar or upper link pin. These straps had slots cut in them that you put a bolt through. The bolt can be tightened, or allowed to slip, the slots would limit the total heigth the drawbar can lift. Doesn't prevent the drawbar from rotating though, but farmers used a different hitch any way.

 

[jim2210]

Here's another that works well for me ..

ASC # 63963 Drawbar Lock

 

[RoyK]

I have been told it is dangerous to move trailers with anything other than the drawbar. That the trailer could cause the 3ph to raise above the rear axle and cause a rollover? My tractor doesn't have a drawbar, nor does it have anywhere to put one if I made one and I, too, have been considering buying something that attaches to the 3ph. Does anyone care to comment on this for those of us that want to use a 3ph drawbar or one with a stabilizer?

You may want to inform 95% of the boat dealers in the USA. It's the only way I've ever seen them move boats around the yard and in and out of the shop. I made one myself to move my 3000+ boat in and out of the garage and around the yard to where I work on it. The simplicity of backing the ball under the tongue, raising 3pt a few inches and driving away is hard to beat. I don't see how MY 3pt could raise accidentally above the axle, as it takes a firm pull on the handle. I don't know about other tractors.

 

[slaveToHorses]

yeah I move trailers around alot that way. It is marvelous. But I am carefull. If I was to haul a heavy hay trailer around the fields I would certainly use a drawbar or a 3pt bar with a safety chain to keep it low.

 

[jimmysisson]

Ok, I believe that is correct, the load being pulled must be lower than the rear axle. The people who advised me against using my 3ph to tow seemed to think the hitch could lift in a fraction of a second and cause the rollover.

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Not so much a rollover as the trailer tongue lifting the drawbar (say, going down a steep hill with a rear-balanced trailer full of gravel) and unloading the rear tractor tires, so you lose braking and control. The anti-uplift chain will pretty much stop that. The solid bars a poster mentioned will do the same but are not so strong in compression - mostly were used as anti-sway restraints, and to prevent the drawbar from falling.
Another point, irrelevant to some users, is the drawbar is strong enough to hold up most trailer tongue weights. However, you shouldn't pull a dead load from the middle of a drawbar unless it has the stabilizers other posters have linked to. I've seen drawbars wishboned when the pull spins the drawbar around so the strain is perpendicular to the width of the drawbar, and bends it in the weaker height dimension. Sorry, bad explanation, but you want the drawbar flat to the ground when pulling. Maybe someone else can make this clearer.
Jim