3-Wheeling on my CUT :o

[Anonymous Poster]

> Also, it wasa non-event really, as far as danger goes. Just interesting that a pretty much
centered load could cause the tractor to tip. I would have expected it to lift the rear
wheels together...I still don't fully understand the lesson here...but it did get me feeling
less confident again on slopes!


That is normal. Look at the way the front axle is attached to your tractor. It is a pivot, left or right. Your tractor does not have 4 solid corners on the ground. It has 2 in back (the rear wheels) and one in front - the front center pivot.

When you pick up a load that is too heavy & picks the rear end up, all the weight is on that front pivot. Just a couple of pounds on one side or the other will tip your tractor over one way or the other.

Wide front tractors are only marginally safer than an old narrow front. The narrow front had the pivot point way down on the ground. The wide front has the same single pivot point, but it is higher up, making the geomotry only slightly better.

--->Paul

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Rambler,

I'm sure your analysis is correct. I came to the same conclusion while thinking about this while running an errand this morning...

Weight way out there on the pallet forks sure made see-sawing easy! Guess I also proved my B2910 can lift more than the rating on the loader.

You know, when you think about it, there is a double see-saw action that takes place when the tractor has too much weight on the front. First, the front/back see-saw action, pivoting about the front axle. Then the side-to-side see-saw pivoting about the axle pivot point! That one is less obvious. I had never considered it until today!

It did not even become obvious when someone earlier in the thread mentioned it [I can see your face I think, but can't remember your name off hand... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif]

 

[MossRoad]

<font color="blue"> I could not believe how easy the tractor wanted to tip. </font>

<font color="blue"> Just amazed me that I could be lifting ONLY ONE rear wheel off the ground </font>

<font color="blue">As I was getting off the tractor, it started to tilt slowly in my direction and the right rear wheel lifted.<font color="blue"> </font>

<font color="blue"> my weight was enough to make the tractor+load stable...and taking my weight away was enough to make the tractor unstable and want to tip over!
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<font color="red"> there was no problem with carrying them on the side of the tractor. </font>

<font color="black"> After reading all of your blue quotes, how did you come to that red conclusion? How do you know??? What if you slightly turned your wheels as you stopped and got off the tractor and it fell over like Fred Flinstones car at the drive in? Hopefully you got off the side away from the load. I'm not critizing you at all, as I've done some experimental things on my tractor as well. Its just that we've been stressing the importance of proper ballast for an FEL and hauling a 3pt load down lower than the rear axle, etc... I don't think anyone has addressed the side load issue very much. Anybody have any thoughts on this for friendly conversation? </font> /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

<font color="red"> there was no problem with carrying them on the side of the tractor. </font>

<font color="blue"> After reading all of your blue quotes, how did you come to that red conclusion? </font>

For two reasons. One was that I only carried two at a time, as compared to having six on the front. But mainly because after having those two on the side, I stood on the back end at the carryall [on top of the load], with things close to the ground, and then jumped up and down to test stability. Solid as a rock. I weigh about 200 lbs by the way.

I agree that it would be better to carry a load on each side. I have to haul some more 16 foot roof rafters down and will do it using both sides, mainly so I can carry more at one time. I would be afraid to put too much on one side, even if it seemed like it would be OK. With things equal and on both sides there should be no question at all with respect to tipping one way or the other.