300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies

   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #11  
Or carbon build up for that matter. It could just be saying I'm old and I'm glad we're done mowing!
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies
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#12  
The engine was rebuilt 15 years ago and not a lot of hours on it. What rpm should I set idle? I do have the service manual.
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #13  
Old JD mowers that used the Kohler "K" engine (like Model K301, K321,, etc,,) have an ignition system with a coil, and a condenser.
Both the coil, and the condenser are susceptible to doing this stall thing when they get warm,,
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies
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#14  
Old JD mowers that used the Kohler "K" engine (like Model K301, K321,, etc,,) have an ignition system with a coil, and a condenser.
Both the coil, and the condenser are susceptible to doing this stall thing when they get warm,,
Yep it's one of those. Any tips on diagnosing?
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #15  
Yep it's one of those. Any tips on diagnosing?
Replace the condenser,, then replace the coil,, ONLY use a Kohler coil,, or you will be replacing it again in 6 months.

These are not "digital" components,, they age, and fail, usually slowly.
Diagnosing is difficult for a newbie,, it is cheaper to replace the components, than learn ,,
replace the points, while you are at it,,
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies
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#16  
Any resistance measurements etc that can be done?

Any recommendations on sourcing parts other than JD?
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #17  
There is an in-tank fuel strainer that should be cleaned out if not done in the last few years.

I would replace the condenser.
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies
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#18  
condenser #14

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fuel filter; looks to be part of the valve. I'll have to crawl under and have a look. It seems to run a good while, 15-25mins, before it sputters, maybe backfires, then dies. Visually I am getting a spark however.

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   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #19  
I think it's best to remove the seat & the fender so you can lift out the gas tank and access the filter!
At least that's how I have done it. I also added an inline fuel filter after the fuel pump.
 
   / 300 lawn runs 20 mins then backfires and dies #20  
my first thought was also about fuel, it might only have "access" to 15 - 20 min of fuel in the line. check the fuel line and adjust the idle.

looks like others have already responded with good info. all the Best
 

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