Tractor Sizing 3016 vs 3616 vs 4010

[jeff9366]

If you will store your tractor in the garage, make sure folded height of ROPS will fit into your garage height wise.

 

[millsan1]

Thanks for the tip. I will actually be building an out building this year for equipment, so as long as I don't brain fart, should be good to go.

 

[Navasot]

Why not a 4025 w/backhoe? Would be about the same price and twice the size

 

[millsan1]

I need something smaller, but not small. I think the 4025 would be way too big for my intended use and the land I am on.

 

[Navasot]

Gotcha. I would personally go with the 3016. Very fair priced machine and good quality. The only plus you get on the 36 is 8 more HP and bigger tires.. but those bigger tires are less common to find in stock at a tire house

 

[arrow]

When you say "bucket drop" are you referring to the main loader arms or the dump? My arms drop like a rock but the bucket curl is slower than I'd expect...not bad, very useable but just not what I hoped it would be. If I keep the rpms up to about 1800-2000, it's decent. I've never timed the main load arm drop but I suspect the 2.4 is close.





correct.

The time it takes from full lock of the bucket to full dump. If yours is closer to the stated time, then something is wrong with mine. Even the alleged "regen" process is just a bit faster than slow. I do not know if "regen" is something that needs hours on a tractor to break in but mine is snail like at 67 hours.

 

[AchingBack]

This is one item I have not figured out yet. Can anyone give me a simple idea of what this means? I have seen it all over the place, but can't quite figure it out. I ASSUME it means putting some liquid in the tires, but not water, as that would freeze in winter and rust the rims, right?

Products such as Rimguard Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast provide the weight you need for ballast and improved traction. Rimguard is non-corrosive.

 

[millsan1]

Apparently, the 3616 is gone. Boo.

Thanks for the info on the tire stuff.

 

[Navasot]

Apparently, the 3616 is gone. Boo.

Thanks for the info on the tire stuff.

No problem. I would still suggest the 3016 over the 4010 also. jmo

 

[arrow]

No problem. I would still suggest the 3016 over the 4010 also. jmo

Obviously the op is in a select quandary. He is siding with the 4010 but as it is a new experience, he may be open to suggestion. I think it important, that if one is going to "suggest" a tractor over another, that the reasons for the opinion be included. The reasoning behind my statement is that we all use our tractors differently. Our opinions are going to be based on our experiences. These experiences may or may not be shared or confronted by the op, thus the validity of our own experiences may come into question. The devil is always in the details.

I have a 3016 gear. I did not like the 3016 hydro. For the work I do, (skidding and snow plowing mostly) the gear was a much better fit for me. Although I feel the 3016 as a capable tractor, the op wants to cut trails on side hills. I think he is better off with a heavier tractor that affords more hp for the hydro and more grunt to tear into earth. With the fel and loaded tires, he will have a tractor approaching 5000#. Weight for what the op wants to do is tantamount to efficiency and speed of accomplishment. I also think the extra weight may prove beneficial to stability so perhaps there is a safety advantage as well for the heavier tractor. He has a 1/4 mile drive that needs plowing out when it snows. Two swipes up and down with a 7' blade, will be child's play for the heavier tractor. The 4010 with it's larger tires will also provide more ground clearance for the ops woods work. He has woods that are complimented by blow downs. Nothing much messier and hard on a tractor than a tree fallen forest. The 4010 is a heavier and more substantially built tractor than the 16 series and I believe these advantages for the ops situation, lean me toward a recommendation for the 4010.