3320 Cab vs 3520 Cab

[Nuru]

Well just before I pull the trigger on a Cab tractor, i was speaking with another dealer just gathering some info and that dealer indicated that they had been advised that if you are going to use a MMM, especially the 72" MMM on the 3x20 series Cab Tractors, that you should go for the 3520 Cab instead of the 3320 Cab. The reason he said was that the 3320's normally aspirated engine will strain (performance will drop off very noticeably) in the summer (especially on the hottest days) to run the MMM and AC. Also he indicated that this was especially true on hills/slopes and that it might have some trouble running the 72" without AC. Apparently some Customers have indicated this, and it seemed like Deere was also advising the Dealer of this potential issue. My property does have slopes that need to be mowed, but nothng too crazy.

So my questions to everyone are:

Does anyone have any experience with this?
What additional maintenance must be done on the Turbo-aspirated tractor
Should I go for it or stay with the 3320?

I was all set to go on the 3320 but now i am having some second thoughts.
If I go to the 3520, the I will need to buy one less implement right away, and would have to get the other two later ouch!

Did hear more info on the drive over decks, this guy saw them in action:

• no requirement to leave the tractor when installing it,
• Automatically it connects to to the PTO
• Automatically connects up to the tractor mounts
• earliest availability is late June to mid-July

 

[tglass]

Hmmm...not sure what your dealer is talking about. I have the 3320 cab, 7 Iron mower, and haven't noticed any problem in the summer. I've had her in pretty tall stuff and rarely hear the engine pull hard. What I understood when I bought mine the 72" wouldn't be any problem, and so far it hasn't. If J.D. is bringing out a drive over deck, etc. I'de like to hear more about it. Might be time to do some trading.

 

[Nuru]

Hmmm...not sure what your dealer is talking about. I have the 3320 cab, 7 Iron mower, and haven't noticed any problem in the summer. I've had her in pretty tall stuff and rarely hear the engine pull hard. What I understood when I bought mine the 72" wouldn't be any problem, and so far it hasn't. If J.D. is bringing out a drive over deck, etc. I'de like to hear more about it. Might be time to do some trading.

OK, yeah i was kinda wondering as the dealer on this deal is not saying that either.

I have heard the turbo does help in the summer heat. Did you run your unit up slopes while cutting? How about the AC being on?

Yes there is a drive over deck coming out in the middle of the year but it has not been officially announced. Yeah i would like to trade for that one too once it comes out.

 

[JasonMac]

**** I used to run a John Deere 4200 Hydro with a 72" John Deere Belly Mower, and it never gave me any problems. Sure it didn't have a Cab or AC, but keep in mind it was only a 26HP Machine. It did my hills fine, sure steep hills had to be done in "B-RANGE". But it did it fine. And yes, it had fully loaded turf tires, with loader installed w/heavy duty bucket.

However, I do have a 3720 now, and I have to admit, the Turbo is pretty cool! But I would think a 3320 Could do it!

 

[Nuru]

**** I used to run a John Deere 4200 Hydro with a 72" John Deere Belly Mower, and it never gave me any problems. Sure it didn't have a Cab or AC, but keep in mind it was only a 26HP Machine. It did my hills fine, sure steep hills had to be done in "B-RANGE". But it did it fine. And yes, it had fully loaded turf tires, with loader installed w/heavy duty bucket.

However, I do have a 3720 now, and I have to admit, the Turbo is pretty cool! But I would think a 3320 Could do it!

Thanks, actually, I would imagine that the extra 600 or so pounds and the AC would make quite a difference on your former unit.

But i am thinking that I only heard that form one dealer and another dealer at the same facility did not mention that - I will do some additional research today and then just make a decisnon and go with it.

 

[JasonMac]

I did eventually get a Jodale Perry Cab for my JD4200. That was about 600lbs too. I mowed with it the last year I had it. Sure there was no AC, but it still didn't seem to make a difference at all. I didn't even notice the extra weight of the cab at all as far as performance goes. Like I said before C-Range was clearly not good for doing any hills at all, with or without the cab. B-Range did it all, and never even noticed the difference in performance with the added weight of the Cab. Jodale Perry makes the best aftermarket cabs you can buy for tractors. They are solid and heavy like the factory cabs, and they look "factory" inside and out.

 

[Nuru]

I looked at the Joedale cabs and Curtis and decied to see what the a trade in delta would be in cost and sofar the delta is not very big at all and I get A/C and heat.

Definitely understand the A. B. C range selections. I mow in A or B, most of the time in B ranges. BTW, how much did the 4200 weigh, without the cab?

 

[AKfish]

Nuru --- you're chasin' this harder 'en a coon dog on a deer track!

Yur gonna have to get over to a dealer that's got one of 'em for you to put it thru it's paces! The 33 has more cubic inches than either the 35 or the 37, no?

How often do you currently mow at WOT with your 4310? Do you ever NEED WOT to manage your hills now?

What makes you think that 600lbs of cab and AC will push that 3320 too hard?

(BUT.... we all know the answer to this conundrum --- get the turbo or FOREVER be second guessin' yourself!!)

You ain't never gonna be happy unless you get that turbo and you'll be hummin' up and down those hills always wonderin' if you couldn't be mowin' just a little faster or with just a little less throttle --- if you had that turbo...

Best regards.

AKfish

 

[Nuru]

Nuru --- you're chasin' this harder 'en a coon dog on a deer track!

Yur gonna have to get over to a dealer that's got one of 'em for you to put it thru it's paces! The 33 has more cubic inches than either the 35 or the 37, no?

How often do you currently mow at WOT with your 4310? Do you ever NEED WOT to manage your hills now?

What makes you think that 600lbs of cab and AC will push that 3320 too hard?

(BUT.... we all know the answer to this conundrum --- get the turbo or FOREVER be second guessin' yourself!!)

You ain't never gonna be happy unless you get that turbo and you'll be hummin' up and down those hills always wonderin' if you couldn't be mowin' just a little faster or with just a little less throttle --- if you had that turbo...

Best regards.

AKfish

Thanks Akfish, every so often I do notice the 4310 in B mode seems to slow down quite a bit on the hills, so I just go to A range and plod up the hill. This is not in any tall grass either, so a little more power might be good. I am also considering a flail mower, so I may not need to consider the extra power using one of those on the Rear PTO. Might make the 3320 concerns go away totally.

 

[Nuru]

Dealer and I are within 2k of what I can say yes too - Dealer going to sharpen the pencil a bit and see what they can do to whittle the price down as much as possible. I hope they find a way to do it!