We try to get from 8 to 10% on deals, on the larger tractors it's less than that. When you consider for 3 years we take care of the tractors from warranty side, we have to collect for our warranty, we have to maintain a good supply of parts, and keep our mechanics up to date on the constantly changing and updating units. When you go into your dealership you expect to be able to walk out with what you came looking for, no dealer can do that without making money. We all hate losing a deal, but if someone 30 miles down the road beats us on price, we thank the customer for shopping with us, tell them if they need anything in the future to let us know, and we'll do warranty work if they need. A dealer can't stay in business by selling at invoice prices. The reality of it all is that you, the customer demands dealers maintain a good parts department, a good service department and friendly salesmen, and all that cost. As for as the quote that was given without the bucket, well the dealer should have honored that.