35D or 40D?
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John_Mc
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- NH TC33D Modified with belly pan, limb risers & FOPS. Honda Pioneer 520 & antique Coot UTV
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I have blue & can truthfully say I'm not satisfied.
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Troy - mind sharing with us what you are doing with your tractor, and why you are not satisfied?
I have blue & can truthfully say I'm not satisfied.
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Troy - mind sharing with us what you are doing with your tractor, and why you are not satisfied?
I am not satisfied with a lot of things. I have had what I consider to be a large number of problems with the machine. Some due to manufacturer defects & others to dealership incompetence. The other issue is the fact that I have found the hydro tranny to be usless to pull anything that offers resistance (the engine keeps screaming but the wheels quit moving). The latest problem I had was blowing a valve the dealer installed in the cooling system (not made for hi-temp. applications), which caused all the coolant to run out while running & getting the engine really hot before the temp. guage could tell the story. (they don't register much without coolant) My machine now has an engine that runs like it has a couple thousand hours on it rather than the 70 it. I want a new machine & the dealer tells me it is worth almost $4000 less now than a new one on trade & they are not willing to move much - even though half of the problems I have had were their fault. I have a very bitter tast in my mouth from dealing with Griesbach Equipment & New Holland. It has come down to "I guess maybe you have a right to be upset, but there just is nothing we can do about it" - from NH & the dealer. Outside of having problems with the engine, transmition, instruments & loader - everything else has worked good I guess even if it doesn't hold its value... not that it leaves much else to break on the thing.
That is the short answer to why I am not satisfied with blue. They are just like Yugos. Cheap to buy compared to the others but you pay eventually... boy do you end up paying.
Troy
That is the short answer to why I am not satisfied with blue. They are just like Yugos. Cheap to buy compared to the others but you pay eventually... boy do you end up paying.
Troy
WoodDawg
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Sorry you have had so much trouble. I am fast approaching my 50 hr service and have not had a single problem with my TC40, and my dealer has been great also. I think you will find that's the story with most of the Blue Tractor owners. Anyone else having problems with there Blue machines?
Mark
Mark
Farmer_Giles
New member
I have a TC33D which just passed the 50 hour mark. Other than the flasher unit failing ($1.49 at Auto Zone) I've had zero problems. I've also enjoyed the HST and don't have any power problems. I guess there's a lemmon in every batch.
DVerbarg
Platinum Member
WoodDawg,
I have a TC40D and the only problems I had were my own fault (such as ripping a hydraulic line when working in timber). There was the recall but am willing to give them credit for fixing it even though it did not seem to affect me.
I think that Troy got a lemon (the wheels should not stop spinning if the engine is still going in I/turtle or I/rabbit range), has a dealer that is not standing behind some work they did, and think that he may have bought too small. I believe that Troy has a few acres (40ish) that a TC45 would be OK for depending on how the operator likes to work. I would not recommend a HST for someone who wants to routinely pull a bottom plow, the HST is too inefficient for that type of work.
For my use (now over 250 hrs) I am quite happy with my TC40D. When digging in clay I do occassionally wish that I had tracks, an extra 50hp, and a bucket that holds 3 cubic yrds...
DaveV
I have a TC40D and the only problems I had were my own fault (such as ripping a hydraulic line when working in timber). There was the recall but am willing to give them credit for fixing it even though it did not seem to affect me.
I think that Troy got a lemon (the wheels should not stop spinning if the engine is still going in I/turtle or I/rabbit range), has a dealer that is not standing behind some work they did, and think that he may have bought too small. I believe that Troy has a few acres (40ish) that a TC45 would be OK for depending on how the operator likes to work. I would not recommend a HST for someone who wants to routinely pull a bottom plow, the HST is too inefficient for that type of work.
For my use (now over 250 hrs) I am quite happy with my TC40D. When digging in clay I do occassionally wish that I had tracks, an extra 50hp, and a bucket that holds 3 cubic yrds...
DaveV
Howdy Folks,
It's been a while since I've wrote. Anyway, been doing some more homework. I hate to bring up an old thread but I figured it was easier to reply too. "Ya'll" was right about the 40D to 45D comparison over 35D to 40D. I'm considering the 45D now (O' Boy!). Still believe the SS option is a "no go". I really don't think the SS would be of benefit to me. I don't have anything that facilitates tight manuvering. The backhoe/loader debate is my main objective: I DO like the Woods 9000. 200 dollars higher. But I'd say it's worth it. Definitely heavier. I plan to move a "lot" of dirt over the next few years, but I do not intend to hurt anything trying to do it all at once. (I have time) Will the 40D's HP handle the backhoe (Woods 9000) and loader(16LA) without any problems? Or would the 45D be the best choice? I do hate making all these choices but at least with this website one can ask questions and be better informed when talking to "the man" who's "going" to take your money!
Thanks for all the input,
Danny
It's been a while since I've wrote. Anyway, been doing some more homework. I hate to bring up an old thread but I figured it was easier to reply too. "Ya'll" was right about the 40D to 45D comparison over 35D to 40D. I'm considering the 45D now (O' Boy!). Still believe the SS option is a "no go". I really don't think the SS would be of benefit to me. I don't have anything that facilitates tight manuvering. The backhoe/loader debate is my main objective: I DO like the Woods 9000. 200 dollars higher. But I'd say it's worth it. Definitely heavier. I plan to move a "lot" of dirt over the next few years, but I do not intend to hurt anything trying to do it all at once. (I have time) Will the 40D's HP handle the backhoe (Woods 9000) and loader(16LA) without any problems? Or would the 45D be the best choice? I do hate making all these choices but at least with this website one can ask questions and be better informed when talking to "the man" who's "going" to take your money!
Thanks for all the input,
Danny
AndyMA
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My dealer sells both Blue and Orange and takes good care of my machines. I presently have a 2120 and a TNS75SS. Go for the bigger frame and all the power you can get. Having had a 1710, I can tell you the step up to the 2120 was huge. There are still alot of 2120's around and if you want a good machine for a backhoe, you might want to consider it- it has a much stronger/larger frame than any of the Boomers. My 2120 is 14 years old and worth almost what I paid for it, so perhaps there is a lot of initial depreciation, but I think they hold there value in the long run. I love the SuperSteer on my new TNS75 and wouldn't buy again without it. The only real problem is trying to "mate" to the quick attach buckets, forks etc- it tends to jump sideways when trying to make the final adjustment.
I had a 758 backhoe and it was good for many years- the frame attach was a real pain to mount. The Woods backhoes are excellent-My 75 has a Woods 1050 on it and it is one of the smoothest & strongest hoes I have used. Bent a bucket curl cylinder, but it was overnighted in and replaced under warranty in the field the next day.
I had a 758 backhoe and it was good for many years- the frame attach was a real pain to mount. The Woods backhoes are excellent-My 75 has a Woods 1050 on it and it is one of the smoothest & strongest hoes I have used. Bent a bucket curl cylinder, but it was overnighted in and replaced under warranty in the field the next day.
AndyR
Gold Member
I am running the Woods 9000 on anL3710 Kubota. Works great, no problems. I bought the 9000 slightly used (10 hours) and it came with the PTO pump. Now I'm glad it did as having the 'hoes hydraulics as a seperate system makes sense to me. BTW - I had looked at the 40D when I making my purchase but ended up going with the L3710 due to lower center of gravity (we got a few hills here too) and MUCH smoother hydrostratic transmission. I would say you would be fine with either machine you mention for use with the 9000, though I would lean toward more horsepower if you can swing it. Sounds like you got a few things to do...
Andy in NH
Andy in NH
djradz
Veteran Member
Danny, my advice is to go with the 40D. You get the 4 cyl engine, added HP and the mid-pto capability. Also, don't expect to get the dealer to drop his price a whole lot less than the $1,500 difference from the 35 to 40. I still think his invoiced differencial is something like $1,200. I bought my 40D on what was left of the old Ford A plan and so I got to see the dealer pricing. I still think the $1,200 to $1,500 addition would be worth it, but not the added cost to go all the way to the 45D. I believe the 45D has the same engine block with just a longer stroke. The 40 and 45 have the same hydraulic pump, same 3-pt lift capacity, same hydro pump with same relief valve setting. Obviously, you get see the added 5 hp at the PTO, but for pushing and pulling, the hydro system relief valve is set at the same pressure, so my guess is you'll hit the relief on the pump in all but the lowest range, before you truly see the added 5hp. Just my experience. Good luck with your choice.
