3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached

   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached #11  
Yup. Open center tractor......with the loader hooked up is like looping those two hoses together.

So with loader removed....and the valve no longer connecting those hoses.....you need to couple them back together yourself
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached #12  
Agree with connecting the two hoses together.

IF the loader was properly plumbed with quick connects on the loader valve, you should have had a male and female hose to connect together.

I remove loader from tractor here that the valve stays with loader, I have to connect the hoses together with the factory set up quick connects.
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached
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#13  
How many lines do you have to disconnect when removing the loader? 3 or 4? If 3, then two of those will need to be connected back together.

So don't insist on starting the tractor like that, or you'll damage the hydraulic pump.

so I connected the two and it started just fine and I found the manual in my dads office but now the valve adjustment know or deal thingy won’t turn like at all I beat the thing a hammer to a vice grip to it used pipe wrenches and regular wrenches nothing it’s like it’s seized I tried it with it off and on with it connected to the loader and disconnected from the loader made sure the three point arm lever was in neutral or off however you wanna say that and the three point arms are just limp like u can lift them by hand and they drop like a bag of rocks there’s no pressure behind them when u lift or when u drop
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached #14  
Where is that valve located? Is that near the two hoses for the loader than you connected back?
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached
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#15  
The pump or valve is located under the seat and the valve adjustment deal is right in front of the seat. The proper name is hydraulic power lift is what the owners manual calls it but it wont turn at all
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached
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#16  
The loader had just had two hoses that ran to the tractor with quick connects and the lever and **** all went with the loader
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached #17  
and the three point arms are just limp like u can lift them by hand and they drop like a bag of rocks there’s no pressure behind them when u lift or when u drop
That is normal for most tractors.
There is no down pressure, so the arms are free to go up and back down to where they were lowered to.
 
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#18  
That is normal for most tractors.
There is no down pressure, so the arms are free to go up and back down to where they were lowered to.
I get that but they don’t work at all
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached #19  
Did the 3 point work before you disconnected the loader?
 
   / 3pt wont move and tractor wont run without loader attached
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#20  
It used to work and then my dad and his friends messed with the dials to get the loader working better now nothing for the 3 point
 

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