3rd function control on the Joystick

[rockyridgefarm]

I am wanting to add a grapple for my loader. But I can't seem to find a control setup that looks like this use was considered. On Deere stuff, the options from JD include a 3rd scv with the control set to the right of the seat. Or a diverter, with it's switch in about the same spot.

To operate the third function, you'd take your hand off the sdtick to close the grapple. But if you need to shift the bucket or boom, you'd have to go back to the stick.

With the diverter, you get to operate the grapple using the stick, but once again you can't move the bucket without toggling back.

Some diverters put the switch on the stick, that is better, but not perfect.

Perfect is a 3rd scv control mounted directly to the joystick, allowing operation of all three spools simultaneously.

Can that be done?

 

[JasonL]

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are wanting? I installed a Fasse valve (diverter) with a momentary switch on my joystick. I only have to hold the button down to activate the grapple- my hand never leaves the joystick. Here is the thread- Diverter Valve- Momentary switch

Not sure if this is what you were asking, but maybe it will help someone /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jason

 

[kennyd]

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The kit from WR Long does exactly that, it is electrically operated spool valve, NOT a diverter.

 

[JasonL]

Ok- I am confused... I still don't see how you could do things simultaneously when you have to push a button to select one or the other?? How can one joystick control three functions?

Jason

 

[kennyd]

Jason, We have diverters on our FEL's so you can only do one function at a time. I know quite well that you understand how they work...
The kit from WR Long actually taps into the PowerBeyond circuit. It is not a diverter, but a solenoid operated spool valve. You cannot "feather" the flow...it is ON or OFF, the switch is a momentary 3 position rocker. So you can theoretically operate lift, curl, and grapple at the same time.

Now the real question is do we have enough hydraulic flow (GPM) on our CUT's to actually operate 3 functions at once...I say no so I think the diverter is the better option for a FEL remote. And the plumbing is simpler also...

Does that help? Or should I explian it a different way?

BTW...Congrats on the new backhoe /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I am jealous...

 

[MadReferee]

I have never seen a commercially available joystick whose linkage controlled three spools. There may be some custom design out there but they are one of a kind for a specific application.

I have the WR Long electric/hydraulic kit for my grapple and its just a seperate single spool solenoid valve. It's not a diverter so you get a real third function with the flick of a rocker switch. Its MSRP is just a little over $500 but includes all hoses fittings and the handle.

 

[jdgreg]

Here's my Fasse setup, you cant use all the functions "simultaneously", but it works so well it seems like they do.

My Fasse Setup

 

[PineRidge]

That is one nice setup you have there for the Fasse valve. And the joystick looks like it came right out of a F-18 Hornet. Cool /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[JasonL]

KennyD-

I do understand the difference between the diverter and a solenoid operated spool valve. I don't see, however how you could do three things at once with one joystick when to operate one valve a switch must be activated. I think I understand the differences in the setups, I just don't see how they would act different than our diverters?


Jason

 

[JasonL]

Maybe I get it now!

I reread the info from Wrlong. Does the rocker switch actually operate a function without moving the joystick? If so, that would be the difference

Jason