3X20 series in UK

[mike311]

I was looking at 4X20 series pics on deere/uk website hoping to see cab models (i did), and I noticed some 3X20 info. Here's the spec sheet. This is may first post to TBN,so I don't know if I'll get it right! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[rockyridgefarm]

And a great first post it is!!

Interesting!

Three models, all with 4 wheel drive std. Mid PTO is std on eHydros. Drop the "e" on Powereversers, Unlike the 4x20s, looks like there are actually two engines, but the larger one in n the smallest unit! The bigger boys get turbos, to push them past. The biggest version comes in hydro only )anybody notice the trend?) It adds an intercooler to the mix...

32Hp, 38Hp and 44, looking nice (WOW, I can hardly imaging that much umph in this size...)

rest of the specs are in that metric stuff, so it'll take some conversion to figger out.

OH, yeah, there are always some differences for stuff accross he pond, so things like front pto's and such are just for them blokes...

 

[mike311]

It would be great if JD would sell those cab models in the US! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I have been hearing rumors from dealers that it could happen next year.

 

[Dutch445]

Might as well post the pic!
This one says 3720?

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Our UK buddies get the old style headlights...

 

[JEA]

I looked over the specs from the attachment, and it looks like the 3320 is the identical machine as the 4310, except for the slightly larger fuel tank -- same engine, same hydraulic flow, etc. It's interesting they decided to keep (essentially) the 4310 configuration in their new lineup for the midsized cuts. Was there any mention of loaders or backhoes for the new mid-sized lineup?

JEA

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I think the specs that are listed are an OOPS! I don't think they intended to show the 3x20's yet, and someone didn't see that they are on this chart. It is supposed to show specs for the 4x20's, only.

It is a safe bet that there will be a new loader, (and was even rumored that it will be the 300X...) I wouldn't rule out a new hoe, since the 448 doesn't show as an option for the mids, where the 48 did....

 

[cef2lion]

If I'm correct, I saw some of the pictures on the UK site showing the cab on the 10 and 20 series. Be nice if the cab made it over the pond and would fit both the 10 and 20 series.

Craig

 

[rockyridgefarm]

OK, here are some compares:

Gross Hp
4210 - 27
3320 - 32.4

4310 - 32
3520 - 37.7

4410 - 35
3720 - 43.7

Torque
4210 - 71.0 N-m (2600rpm)
3320 - 107 N-m (1200rpm)

4310 - 78.5 N-m (2600rpm)
3520 - 116 N-m (1400rpm)

4410 - 87.9 N-m (2600rpm)
3720 - 137 N-m (1560rpm)

-> that is 101Ft/lbs, at 1560, compared to the Kubota 3430's 79 at 2700 <-

The 3320 is about the same Hp as the 4310, but look at the torque! 78.5/2600 vs. 107/1200 G-R-U-N-T !!

It is closer to say that the new models start out at the 4310, rather than the 4210. So the 3320 replaces the 4310; the 3520 replaces the 4410. The 3720 actually would fill the gap that the 4510 was at. I have heard suggestions that the 4510 might have been underpowered; well the 3720 won't be...

I'll guess there will be a 2720 to replace the 4115, which will take the 4210's place....

 

[beenthere]

Good deductions, and remember that the 4510 was the larger frame size (more in line with the new 4x20's.

3320, 3520, and 3720 are all the same wheelbase.

 

[JEA]

So I'm not sure about those torque values..... If comparing at the same engine speed, would these be identical? I don't have the brochure in front of me here, but as I recall while comparing them at home a couple of nights ago, EVERYTHING was identical between the 4310 and 3320 except for fuel tank capacity. In short, it looks like the 3320 iss simply a rebadged 4310 with a face lift (and a new fuel tank). I did note the displacement in the 3320 spec sheet says 1.6 L, however, rather than 1.5 for the 4310...... Could be a typo?

JEA

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Yup, that's my point, the 3720 gets the power in a smaller pachage...

It'll be interesting to see how these act with the blowers...

 

[TCowner]

Mike, if you click on the "attachability" heading and the the "front" heading you will see a tractor with the 300X loader. The loader arms block the decal on the tractor so you can't see exactly which tractor it is on. But you can definately make out the 300X.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

OK, I found it. There is a 300X and a 300CX...

300CX = carrier? As is Skid Steer carrier? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Here are some scoops... Thanks TCOwner, I had missed some links...

there is the 300x and 300cx loaders, i just mentioned...

While the 4020s pto switch is up on the dash, the 3020 stays on the fender...

The MFWD is a switch on the left fender on the 4020s but it is a mechanical lever on the 3020s...

engines are still direct injection...

PTO brakes...

New Tilt Steering design...

New on the dash:

<ul type="square"> [*]MFWD indicator
[*]Air Restriction indicator
[*]Diagnostic codes
[*]Digital speedometer
[/list]

There is an air suspension seat option, but I think that would be for cab models...

 

[TCowner]

Mike, I think I agree with your post suggesting that John Deere made an "oops" by posting the 3000 Twenty specs along with the 4000 Twenty specs.

Perhaps I didn't do it properly but I couldn't get the specifications list to come up this morning on Deere's web site. I could get all of the other pictures, features, etc. but nothing happened when I clicked on the specifications.

Again, maybe I didn't do it right or perhaps John Deere didn't like this "premature" discussion of the new series. I'm sure they don't like it when their dealers get flooded with questions about discussions on a web site when the information hasn't been released to the dealers.

I spoke with a dealer who claims there is a meeting in October when the new tractors are to be announced but other than that there has been no imforation given out.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Nope. its still there. You must not be holdin' yer face right! (or yer popup blocker...)

 

[TCowner]

Mike, you are correct sir. My computer keyboard skills are a little suspect at times. Sorry for the error.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Anybody heard when the dealer meetings are that cover the rollout of the new machines?

 

[jd110]

Did anyone else notice the maximum speed ratings? 20.5 mph in a compact tractor seems a little fast to me. Maybe another typo?