425 - model year changes and price check

[johara1]

my problem with the mower was pushing it up hill with the arms in float, the tractor wants to ride up the arms and take the weight off the front wheels.... jim

 

[MossRoad]

my problem with the mower was pushing it up hill with the arms in float, the tractor wants to ride up the arms and take the weight off the front wheels.... jim

I recall that conversation.

When mine's in float, I can run it up a 45 degree angle until the tractor tires start to spin. I do that on the sides of our remote property driveway when I mow the sides of the driveway cut from the highway. They are steep and about 8' tall. I can almost get to the top.

 

[MossRoad]

Took me a while, but here's the photos of the before and after of lawn mowing with my PT425, 60" rear discharge finish mower I think in 2002.

 

[johara1]

I'm trying to see a 1 to 1 slope you are talking about......

 

[MossRoad]

I'm trying to see a 1 to 1 slope you are talking about......

Not in those photos. That's my tabletop flat lawn.

I'll get some pictures of the 45 degree driveway cut next spring when I go out to cut brush.

 

[johara1]

I don't know any lawn mower that will even go up a 1 to 1 let alone mow it, you need tracks.....

 

[MossRoad]

I don't know any lawn mower that will even go up a 1 to 1 let alone mow it, you need tracks.....

The PT1850 is rated for 45 degrees, up, down, and across. That's nuts. I can't even walk up a 45 degree slope without using my hands to help.

 

[johara1]

First i would like to see it do it, but with someone else in the seat. second i want to see them keep oil to the engine. I know what a dozer will do on a 1 to 1 side ways and i sure don't see a rubber tired thing doing it on grass reliably.

 

[johara1]

The pics. on Powertrac with the 1850 aren't a 1 to1 slope...... jim

 

[MossRoad]

First i would like to see it do it, but with someone else in the seat. second i want to see them keep oil to the engine. I know what a dozer will do on a 1 to 1 side ways and i sure don't see a rubber tired thing doing it on grass reliably.

There are videos out there. Also, there are members here on TBN that own them. No one has reported any issues with engine oiling after operating on slopes.

 

[johara1]

I want to see it, what most think is a 1to1 isn't even close.... or they go up till back wheels get on it and thats it.

 

[MossRoad]

I want to see it, what most think is a 1to1 isn't even close.... or they go up till back wheels get on it and thats it.

1 to 1 is 45 degrees.
PowerTrac says their PT1850 will do 45 degrees.
Go to Tazewell, walk in the showroom. They have one sitting there on a tilt table at 45 degrees.
Ask some of the TBN members here that have them. They'll tell you it's extremely uncomfortable to be on a slope that steep, but the machine handles it.

I don't know what else to tell you other than set up an appointment at Tazewell to test drive one.

 

[johara1]

I know what a 1to1 is and i am positive i graded more 1to1 slopes than anyone one the forum cut grass on. sitting on a table and doing it is two different things. Shoot the grades and then watch and see ......

 

[ponytug]

I want to see it, what most think is a 1to1 isn't even close.... or they go up till back wheels get on it and thats it.

I have measured my slopes in numerous places, I can attest that the 1445 will do 35 degrees with the brush cutter on (up, down, sideways), and about thirty degrees with an empty bucket. I haven't rolled mine so those are lower bounds, and all four wheels are on the ground, no uphill wheel lifts. No oil issues in the engine. I have a pair of inclinometers in the tractor as well.

Since the single wheel 1445 can do 35 degree slopes, I have no trouble believing the users here, and Power-Trac, that the 1850 can do 45 degrees, I.e. 1:1.

Since it has come up, one of my first jobs was surveying, so yes I do know how to measure slopes in general, and I particular for a 72" wide tractor.

Seriously, make an appointment at Power-Trac and Tazewell and go drive one yourself. They have a nice steep field out back.

All the best,

Peter

 

[MossRoad]

I know what a 1to1 is and i am positive i graded more 1to1 slopes than anyone one the forum cut grass on. sitting on a table and doing it is two different things. Shoot the grades and then watch and see ......

I know how to measure slopes.

I also know that the engine in my machine is only rated for 25 degrees of continuous operation. Most folks have no idea what the engine in their machine is rated at. That information isn't readily available, and most people don't even think about it.

 

[woodlandfarms]

I have a small section in my slopey property that is 45 (1:1). I cannot walk up it. I can however mow it with my 1850. Engine has no issues with oil pickup. Traction takes work. Super low tire pressure with patience and a tight as iron pucker meter is the way it happens. You saying it can’t happen just proves you know nothing about the capabilities of the pt.

 

[MossRoad]

 

[johara1]

I do know what a 425 and an old 422 won't do, And i do know slope work when you say traction takes work tells me all i need to know, you are on the edge. Don't worry i won't both you guys any more, Play with your toys

 

[woodlandfarms]

When I say traction it involves 4psi on balloon tires. It works surprisingly well unless the grass is wet. I have a run out at the bottom of my hill. The guys who do dams is a different beast. But your comment was we are lying about the capability and I am here to tell you straight up the 1850 can handle the slopes.

 

[SpringHollow]

Most people think a slope is much steeper than it really is but I have played a little on 45 degree slopes with the 1850 when at my brother's place.. (And yes, I know how to measure angles - I even have slope indicators mounted to my 1850). If the grass is wet, I end up crabbing when going across the slope. No way I would want to go on 45° without the tilting seat. I never had the sense that I would tip. It is really more a question of whether you will slide. Sometimes chains seemed to help. Other times, they seemed to make it worse.

Ken