425 Starting Problem

[TractorGolf]

Getting ready for 5-8 inches of snow.
Started PT up and positioned it to be ready to pull out of the garage, no problem. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Checked to make sure the lights were working correctly and the motor died. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Now I cannot restart the motor. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I am now in a panic, What do I need to check?
Any Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Carpenter]

Are you sure you didn't hit the pto toggle by mistake? I've done it. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[TractorGolf]

I don't think so.
If I did what is the result? What do I need to do to correct the problem?

 

[Phils]

Just turn it to the OFF position.

I learned this the hard way after running out of gas while brushhogging. Hiked to the house, got gas, hiked back, filled the PT.... then no start! Hiked back and forth a couple of times until the dim bulb above my head started to glow.

Phil

 

[TractorGolf]

So far no luck /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Flipped the switces, no luck.
Checked the wiring on the lights and found one with insulation rubbed through to the conductors. This probably caused a short. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Could this have shorted out the switch? Checked to see if there are any fuses in the circuit other than to the fan, can't see any on the schematic or see one on the machine.
Any possibilities of operating the PT without the switch?
Can the switch be bypassed/jumpered to run the PT?
Open to all suggestions??????

 

[DHS]

I have a four year old 422 and it has an inline main fuse located near the starter. Flip both the light switch and PTO switch off and check this fuse. With the light switch off the worn insulation should not impact the fuse unless you flip the light switch on before repairing the insulation.

Dale

 

[BobRip]

Probably that fuse, but I have had both fuse holders fail. The one on the starter is the one you need to check.

Bob Rip

 

[J_J]

I don't know what engine you have, but most of the ign switches are similar. Take the switch out and see if you have 12 volts at the batt terminal. If so, turn the switch on and see if you have 12 volts at the ign terminal. If so, you can then jump across the batt terminal, and the start terminal to start. I have replaced the ignition switch 2 times. I have since removed the switch and installed some automotive switches. It now works right.

 

[TractorGolf]

Found the problem. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifThe inline fuse to the engine was blown. Never knew it was there until today. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Thanks for the input gents. This site is probably the best manual ever written.
Another item for the emergency toolkit. 30amp buss fuse.
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pequeajim]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This site is probably the best manual ever written. )</font>

I know I always get my questions answered here.

Happy Holidays Everyone!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jfh28]

Well I need to thank you guys. And you don't even know that you helped!

Just had the same problem, started pt up and let it warm up for 5 minutes, changed from plow to lmb and drove about 100 feet and it died. Nothing happened when key turned.

Did all the basics, made sure pto off, that I had gas, that battery was charged, nothing loose. Then came back and reviewed posts between mutters under my breath.

In my case the fuse looked ok but I pulled it anyway to get a close look at it. Put it back in and machine started right up.

So I either had a fuse that got a little loose or the fuse holder looks like it pinches the wire to make the connection. Could be that the pinch was not quite complete and so did not connect properly. I did give it a little squeeze just in case.

Will call Terry monday just to make sure it's nothing else. Ever notice how these problems always happen on the weekend!

Jack


<font color="blue"> Probably that fuse, but I have had both fuse holders fail. The one on the starter is the one you need to check.

Bob Rip </font>

 

[J_J]

I think you should replace that fuse holder with a heave duty auto type fuse holder and fuse. They have those new fuses that glow when they blow. Must be a tiny light in there. You can find them at Auto Zone.

 

[BobRip]

The fuse holders have "insulation displacement" connections to the wire. There is a slot which the wire is pushed sideways into and that cuts into the insulation and makes contact with a bit of the wire. This is actualy inside the fuse holder plastic. They use these on trailers and they are IMHO a terrible concept. I call them devil contacts. They give you an easy short term fix. I would go ahead and replace the other fuse holder on the cooling fan near the temperature switch.

Bob Rip