425 vs Kubota 7510 or 7520?

[KentT]

Unless that Robin-engined one has been used commercially, the engine should still be under warranty, though the tractor is not....

Have you added up the cost of all those attachments, if new? That's a serious, expensive package!

BTW, I'd trade you a 60" mower deck for that stump cutter, if you're interested....

 

[funpilot]

Using today's pricing, the accessories add up to $7740.00 What should the used value be for these?

 

[KentT]

With only 150 hours on the tractor, and all those attachments to "spread that usage" they should be in quite good condition, even if they've been stored outside. I'd guess they'd be worth somewhere between 65% to 75% of new, based upon that...

The factory estimated the value of my attachments, with 250 hours on the package, at slightly over 60% of new prices...

 

[funpilot]

KentT, what level of depreciation would you put on the tractor and what did it retail for in 2004?

 

[KentT]

Based on when it was sold in 2004, the price was either $8500 or $9000 for the tractor, unless I'm mistaken...

Without seeing and testing the machine, it would be hard to put a price on it now, but I'd guess somewhere in/above the $7000 range...

One year and 150 hours isn't much use, and tractors do not depreciate like cars do...

 

[BobRip]

I just found out how much cheaper the PT is because of one accessory you do not need, a second tractor.
I was out walking and my neighbor's wife is mowing along their drive and by the road with a 21 inch push mower. I asked her where her husband was. Well he is mowing somewhere else. We got to talking about his tractor (30 hp diesel) and using it to mow along the road. She said that if her husband were rich he would buy a second tractor just to leave the bushhog on. Another neighbor has two tractors, one always has a bushhop and the other has a loader and backhoe. How many farmers do you know who keep the old tractor when they buy a new one so they don't have to change attachments?

So basically when you own a PT, you don't need a second one for the tough to change attachments because there aren't any. Seems to me that this saves a lot of money.


Actaully I would like a PT432 for the extra wheel motor torque and power. Hopefully PT will make one in a few years.
Bob Rip

 

[Sedgewood]

<font color="red"> How many farmers do you know who keep the old tractor when they buy a new one so they don't have to change attachments? </font>

The few small farmers still hanging on around here tend to have 8-10 old utility tractors, many with dedicated attachments. That's a lot of mechanical stuff to keep tuned. I was thinking just the other day that a PT around the farm would replace at least half of them and the skid steer too. Maybe there's a new market for PT to address. Naw - too many perfectly good 3ph attachments to replace at this point - there's no money left to work with. Too bad - with the increased efficiency they might almost survive. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Sedgewood

 

[MossRoad]

You guys bring up some good points. The ease of the quick attach was the big selling point for me. Our first large tractor was that old IH that I keep mentioning. Everyone I talked to said it would be the best thing for our needs at the time. I started complaining real quick when I had to change between the 5' brush hog and the 6' box blade. Big implements that I could barely nudge around. No matter how good you are at positioning the tractor, the best thing to do was find a very flat, very firm piece of ground before dropping the implement or it was going to be heck getting it back on, even with adjustable rear links. I dreaded each and every implement change. Skinned knuckles, greasy hands, strained back... OUCH! I could easily see how a person could think it would be easier to keep a dedicated tractor for each implement.

Now repeat after me three times:

I hate 3PT implements!
I hate 3PT implements!
I hate 3PT implements!

Now take a deep cleansing breath.... now another.... now look at the following picture.... cliiiick it. Go on... cliiiick it.

Theeerrrrre. Now doesn't that feel better? Relaaaax. Ahhhhhh....

Get yourself a Power Trac and enjoy your life. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[RegL]

" I hate 3PT implements!
I hate 3PT implements!
I hate 3PT implements! "

3pt impliments are no prpblem. You just use the forks on your PT to get them into position.
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[BobRip]

What got me to realize the 3pt attachment was so bad, was when I needed to move a fairly small one from my carport to my shed. Rather than connect it to the tractor, I loaded it on my hand truck and rolled it to the shed. Fortunately the UPS driver showed up and gave me a hand. Prior to this I was putting the bush hog on in the spring and the snow plow on in the fail. What a pain. I don't hate them any more because I don't have them anymore.

Bob Rip