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rancar:
My point was not that <font color="blue">these are inferior tractors </font>(your words). All brands can have problems with certain areas. He may have <font color="blue">bought in good faith thinking he was buying a quality product</font>(your words) but his intentions and what he thinks is not relevant. What is relevant are the facts. My point was simply that given his experiences with the tractor and the dealer it is silly to keep banging your head against the wall. If I recall in reading the additional postings, he was even thinking of giving JD & the dealer MORE money for extended warranty. Unbelievable. If everything he has said is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, JD has made a serious effort to get things right and simply can't do it for whatever reason. That was the point.
Yesterday I was at an antique power show and there was a JD dealer next door. Because of this thread went and carefully looked at a 4300 and a 4310. Chief may be correct that the breakage is being caused by lateral force vectors. However, I would make a small wager (say $1.00) that the problem is due to the geometry of his hitch set-up combined with the relief valve setting. He claims 10 (if I recall) replacements of fractured part. He also claims he doesn't allow much swing on the hitch. Can't believe that JD or even an incompetent dealer would be furnishing 10 faulty part-not likely? they all would have come from the same part run. Of course, the issue of bad turnbuckles could be resolved by replacing JD's turnbuckle with one of the same length/strength from another manufacturer-if it breaks we know the problem is not the turnbuckle; if it doesn't we know JDs turnbuckle is bad. Logically, although the set-up on the 43xx is weak, it isn't THAT weak. Since others don't seem to be having this problem, logically, it probably stems from his particular set-up on his particular tractor, i.e. particular, not generic. And, by reasoning, that leads to hitch geometry and pressure relief setting-unless there is some peculiarity with the implement. Assuming, of course, that he is keeping the hitch snugged up (limited lateral play) which was Chief's point.
Anyone care to take me up on my bet???
JEH
On reflection, and assuming he is not allowing much lateral play in the hitch, I will raise my bet to $5.00 that the problem is with his particular hitch geometry, pressure relief valve setting or the implement.
JEH
My point was not that <font color="blue">these are inferior tractors </font>(your words). All brands can have problems with certain areas. He may have <font color="blue">bought in good faith thinking he was buying a quality product</font>(your words) but his intentions and what he thinks is not relevant. What is relevant are the facts. My point was simply that given his experiences with the tractor and the dealer it is silly to keep banging your head against the wall. If I recall in reading the additional postings, he was even thinking of giving JD & the dealer MORE money for extended warranty. Unbelievable. If everything he has said is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, JD has made a serious effort to get things right and simply can't do it for whatever reason. That was the point.
Yesterday I was at an antique power show and there was a JD dealer next door. Because of this thread went and carefully looked at a 4300 and a 4310. Chief may be correct that the breakage is being caused by lateral force vectors. However, I would make a small wager (say $1.00) that the problem is due to the geometry of his hitch set-up combined with the relief valve setting. He claims 10 (if I recall) replacements of fractured part. He also claims he doesn't allow much swing on the hitch. Can't believe that JD or even an incompetent dealer would be furnishing 10 faulty part-not likely? they all would have come from the same part run. Of course, the issue of bad turnbuckles could be resolved by replacing JD's turnbuckle with one of the same length/strength from another manufacturer-if it breaks we know the problem is not the turnbuckle; if it doesn't we know JDs turnbuckle is bad. Logically, although the set-up on the 43xx is weak, it isn't THAT weak. Since others don't seem to be having this problem, logically, it probably stems from his particular set-up on his particular tractor, i.e. particular, not generic. And, by reasoning, that leads to hitch geometry and pressure relief setting-unless there is some peculiarity with the implement. Assuming, of course, that he is keeping the hitch snugged up (limited lateral play) which was Chief's point.
Anyone care to take me up on my bet???
JEH
On reflection, and assuming he is not allowing much lateral play in the hitch, I will raise my bet to $5.00 that the problem is with his particular hitch geometry, pressure relief valve setting or the implement.
JEH