Price Check 4520 Price Quote

[RogerH]

Note that the engines used on the 4000 Series are made in John Deere's Mexico plant. At this time, I think only the 5003 series use India made engines.

I too would wonder why the eHydro would disappear from the recommendation when haying comes into play. I think it would be an excellent tractor for haying as long as it had the weight to handle the haying attachments. The infinitely adjustable speed would seem to be great for most haying operations.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Roger is right. The engines are made by JD in their Mexico plant.
The smaller 3X20 series engines are Japanese Yanmars.

The 5003 series are the Indian imported JD's. These are brought here to offer folks a low buck version of a JD.

If you are looking at a bunch of hay production, depending on what type of baler you have, you might consider a bigger machine. If your just doing a relatively small amount, you can get by with the 4520 or 4720.

When you test drive, compare the 2 pedal design to the treadle. I prefer the 2 pedal.

 

[HobbleCreek]

OK, I just got back from our place. With a fresh survey of the work that needs to be done, I think I'm going to want all the horsepower I can squeeze out of a compact sized tractor.

The reason I want to stay in the compact size range is that there are some pretty tight spaces, especially along the side of the mountain. There is a lot of work to be done though, and I think some it's going to take some real juice. I really appreciate the thoughts about the important difference the turbo will make.

I'm now back leaning towards the 4750. The guy at the dealer today said he tought the 4750 could be fitted to handle the Category 2 implements. Do any of you have any knowledge about that? Maybe I'll post that question separately in the JD Owning/Operating forum.

Thanks again for all your help.

-- Grant

 

[HobbleCreek]

Thanks Kyle,

Do you know how long the engines have been made in that plant? Just wondering what kind of a track record they've established.

If I do any haying, it won't be an awful lot. I'm thinking my ground will be better put to use as pasture and me buying hay.

I think I'm with you on the treadle. I supposed you'd get used to whatever you have though.

-- Grant

 

[ddivinia]

I do not belive the 4520 is made in India - the 5x03 series is made in India.

D.

 

[ddivinia]

Have you considered a power reverser? I have a 4720 and a 5525. The 5525 is larger, but not that much bigger than the 4720. I really prefer HST, but I needed a larger tractor and the power reverser is pretty slick.

D.

 

[jcmseven]

Grant,

I do not know about Cat 2 implements with the big framed 4000 series machines. I can say that it is very unusual that a hydro tranny would not do small amounts of hay work. I see tractors frequently around this area that are much less machine than a 4000 series JD doing hay-related things, so I cannot imagine that the 4000 series would not. You pose a question that I asked a few months ago, that being how much difference is there between a 4520 and a 4720 tractor? The answer, based on my research and personal use is: very little. Realistically, 4-5 PTO HP when pulling an implement is not much, especially when you are looking at machines with 50+ HP. Also, the thing I think of would be torque. Both the 4520 and 4720 have torque galore. This would allow them to operate heavy implements well. With regard to engines, so far my 4520 has been great. I had a 3720, and while I continue to think Yanmar makes the best and most durable all-around diesel in the world, the John Deere PowerTech seems more powerful to me. Even with a larger machine and attachments, the 4520 will pull and climb better than my 3720 did (although it was plenty powerful). I believe JD engineered its branded engines to make lots of torque, and when compared with the Yanmar, they seem to make more. An example of this would be the 1600 WAM that has a Yanmar 4 cylinder turbo-diesel. It is rated at 64 HP (more than my 4520 at 53.5) but has 112 lbs feet of torque v. 120+ with the JD engine. I would not think twice about the JD engine, if you like the machines otherwise. It sounds like the 4520 you checked into had some issues, but consider that size when looking, and I would strongly look at the large frame JD line. I really think they would meet your needs. Or, as D says, look at the 5000 series. They are more pricey and larger, but the difference in price is not that great, and they are more "agricultural", which to you would mean more diversity in options.

John M

 

[HobbleCreek]

There are reasons the 5525 would be nice, but I think overall I will be happier with the 4720 or 4520. The smaller size is important to me, because of the location of the ditch I need to maintain (wrapping around the side of the mountain) and because of the other tasks for which I want to use this machine.

All of your comments and suggestions have been a big help. It has helped me to think about what features are most important to me. I really think that I will get more benefit out of the eHydro, the compact size, the HP and the torque of the 4720 than I would out of the cat II features of the L5030 or the JD 5525. Having gone through this process will, I think, make me happier when I finally make my decision -- which is now leaning towards the 4720 -- I think that additional few HP later will be worth a couple grand now.

As for the cat II implements, as I look around I think that they make a cat I implement for about everything I need -- include plows, discs, and whatever. Thanks again to all for your help and input.

BTW, after yesterday's trip to the canyon, my daughters (at least the two I took with me) are entheusiatic supporters of the tractor purchase. They told my wife, "You should see all the things he's going to be able to get done with a tractor!" Today in church I just kept thinking of the various projects and wondering how I'm going to prioritize them all. I've heard it said that to a man with a hammer, everything's a nail. I'm starting to think that to a man with a tractor, everything could stand a little improvement.

I can't wait to grade my road, level a parking spot for my RV, clean out the ditch, dry out the pasture, clean rocks of the dugway, and the other dugway, and grade that other road, and that other road, and level that pasture, and . . . /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif