$5 Stove Pipe - First Fire

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crash325

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Just got my wood stove pipe replaced. Old pipe was a thin cheep one and only lasted 2 years.

New $5 pipe (Found it at Habitat for Humanity) is real thick & heavy, with a tight fully crimped seam. Just one step below the porcelain coated pipe. Used crimped elbows as they are almost as thick as the pipe. The Coffee can topper works better than the commercial rain hats & lasts about 2 years. This is the 3rd one that I have made and the first one painted. Maybe the paint will make it last a little longer.:)

Fitting it together and putting it up was one of the few things that has gone smoothly lately. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Could not do all that and not build a fire. No it was not needed, just had to test the pipe. :laughing: Da!!! it works. :thumbsup:

So on the cool mornings coming us now I can have a little fire. Am ready for the actual cold that is coming.
 
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Good job on the pipe. :thumbsup:

Fire ?, thought you guys in AZ just used that for cooking ? :confused:
 
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Crash,

always good to use the heaviest guage stove pipe and elbows (non-galvanized), it comes in different guages at the wholesale level, some stores don't carry the good stuff, find the supply co's if not.......

cheap stuff is probably 28 guage......IIRC good stuff is 18 or 20 guage.....heavier is definetly better....:thumbsup:
 
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Some dummy forgot the pictures. When I find out who that was, they will be in big trouble.:laughing:

Will
When younger cold did not bother me. Now anything below 70 and I am cold. Am building a new stove, it's a cook / heat stove. Old one can be cooked on, but not the best for that.

Wdchyd,
Didn't measure the guage, but its in the 20 range. Maybe high teens.
 

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For me, unfortunately even the heavier gauge pipe doesn't last more than 2 years. I feel better about using a heavier pipe, but it doesn't last that much longer.
 
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For me, unfortunately even the heavier gauge pipe doesn't last more than 2 years.
What goes bad with them after 2 years?? I have been running the same stove pipe since I installed it 7 years ago. Pipe came from the local True Value hardware store, nothing special, it gets cleaned yearly. I heat soley with wood, stove runs 24/7 from early Dec to end of March with occasional firings in Nov & April to take chill off. Stove is a Vermont Castings Defiant Encore, w/cat, if that matters.
 
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Oh, I see the pics now....

I was wondering how you could only get a few years, I was thinking you were using this pipe on the inside....

Your pipe looks good but around here the FD wouldn't approve on that type of pipe outside......I have stainless insulated pipe on the outside and the same stuff has been up since 1984.......

I like the coffee can idea too....
 

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What goes bad with them after 2 years?? I have been running the same stove pipe since I installed it 7 years ago. Pipe came from the local True Value hardware store, nothing special, it gets cleaned yearly. I heat soley with wood, stove runs 24/7 from early Dec to end of March with occasional firings in Nov & April to take chill off. Stove is a Vermont Castings Defiant Encore, w/cat, if that matters.

The answer to your question is in it. What kills stove pipe is moisture, by burning your stove 24/7 no moisture can form. Around here stove is only burned 3/4 hours a day. As it cools condensation forms inside and out side of the pipe. The cat also burns most of the creosote that normally forms and it adds to the corrosion problem.

To a smaller extent the type of wood burned makes a little difference.
 
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We've had the same single wall pipe for 7 years with small fires, parents have had the same single wall pipe for 35 years now, small fires, no problems...
 
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I like that redneck top, I mean the coffee can top, but it won't work for me. The birds, mice, and ring tail coons, etc. will move in during the year. One year something filled the entire pipe with twigs, I guess birds trying to make a nest. When I started a fire all the smoke came inside the cabin.
 
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Oh, I see the pics now....

I was wondering how you could only get a few years, I was thinking you were using this pipe on the inside....

Your pipe looks good but around here the FD wouldn't approve on that type of pipe outside......I have stainless insulated pipe on the outside and the same stuff has been up since 1984.......

I like the coffee can idea too....

Around here, I think the code calls for it to be at least 3 ft taller than the highest point on the roof. I think you'd need a couple of feet on your chimney here.
 
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My town has a formula for height of chimney cap

IIRC it's something like 2' above the spot where it is 10 feet (straight across) from the roof itself

I could be wrong about the exact measurements though.....:confused2:
 
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What goes bad with them after 2 years?? I have been running the same stove pipe since I installed it 7 years ago. Pipe came from the local True Value hardware store, nothing special, it gets cleaned yearly. I heat soley with wood, stove runs 24/7 from early Dec to end of March with occasional firings in Nov & April to take chill off. Stove is a Vermont Castings Defiant Encore, w/cat, if that matters.
The pipe from my wood furnace to the chimney is what I'm talking about. It rusts right through. It's in the cellar.
 
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I had a 8" x 8" brick chimney. I lined it with a 6" stainless insert. One of the best things I did for that wood stove. The only problem is that now it can draw too well, and it gets too hot in the family room even when turned down all the way.

Back to the topic: double (or triple) walked stainless should really help with the rust problem. The double wall helps with the condensation problems, and the stainless doesn't rust as easily.
 
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The stainless stuff I have is Metalbestos All-Fuel Chimney 10"ID.......BIG $$$$

But it lasts.....when I put mine up in 1984 I had some used stuff and bought some more new to match......(the old stuff was at least 10 yrs older)

I never intended for it to last as I was going to just add a cement block chimney when it crapped out, but it still stands and no trouble, why take it down...:D
 
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We have single wall pipe up to to the double wall that has lasted from 1980 to date. As far as the tin can you can put over the opening to keep unwanted animals out.
 
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My town has a formula for height of chimney cap

IIRC it's something like 2' above the spot where it is 10 feet (straight across) from the roof itself

I could be wrong about the exact measurements though.....:confused2:

If that is the code, pipe does meet it. It does draw real well where it is placed.

At first I was going to put up a 2 wall. But when this pipe fell into my hands, at that price, just use it. :thumbsup: 2 Wall and or stainless will be used when it "Falls" into my hands.
A coffee can cap held up for 4 years on my outside stove and it was just left to rust, no paint. I will put a piece of rabbit wire over the opening to keep the birds out. Cut out is larger than the can pictured.
 

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In AZ double-wall pipe probably would be an overkill for you.....up here when we light up the stoves they may burn hot for some time.....

It gets exciting when you realize there is a chimney fire inside the insulated pipe.....OH MY.......:shocked:
 

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