540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM

   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #21  
about the same thing as what happened when my mother plugged her vacuum cleaner into the 240 volt A/C outlet. She said it cleaned like a son of a gun for about 30 seconds and then made a lot of noise and stopped, never to start again.
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM
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#22  
LOL!!

about the same thing as what happened when my mother plugged her vacuum cleaner into the 240 volt A/C outlet. She said it cleaned like a son of a gun for about 30 seconds and then made a lot of noise and stopped, never to start again.
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #23  
I have a broken joint on drive shaft now that the po ran 1000 rpm in heavy brush. Luckily that was all that happened. When I told him he couldn't do that with a 540 rated bushog and is why it broke, he looked surprised & puzzled.
Must have hit something too. Looking underneath one blade is wrapped over the other one like a pretzel. Bet it was a heck of a bang. Amazingly didn't seem to hurt transmission other than loose bolt or the tractor PTO.
 
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I have a broken joint on drive shaft now that the po ran 1000 rpm in heavy brush. Luckily that was all that happened. When I told him he couldn't do that with a 540 rated bushog and is why it broke, he looked surprised & puzzled.

Actually in heavy cutting a 540 will pull much easier running 540 that it will running 1000. He must have had a lot of HP for the size cutter.
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #25  
Lots of farmers run 540 RPM mowers/cutters at 1000 RPM tractor pto, but reduce the tractor RPM so that the PTO is running at around 540 RPM. This allows you to use lower revs and save diesel.
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #26  
image.jpgNo the tractor was only 25 hp and probly running wide open. I was lucky to be able to order the back half of the shaft from HOWSE mfg. I got two quotes on parts to repair at other shops & both were $200
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #27  
My boss does this with his Befco tiller behind his L2850... in lose soil where it tills easy, he'll throttle back the tractor and run in the 1000 pto setting. Saves the tractor from running wide open, and tiller is running about normal rpm. I wouldn't want to run any impliment much over rated pto rpm in this manner, but for light work and to let the tractor just 'idle along' I dont see a problem. Just use some common sense.
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #28  
The predominant failure will be failure of the knives at the bolt hole. As noted by buickanddeere the knives are pulling (1000/540)^2 = 3.43 times as hard on their moorings. No problem except for the violent abuse suffered when hitting solid objects. Damage>crack>failure> 10# projectile travelling 400ft/sec. THE safest place within shouting distance is ON the tractor.
,,,Between he and LD1 I think everything was addressed -- except different blade designs, length, shape, etc. Most blades are long and shaped to swing well below the stump jumper. This makes them heavy and the shape results in a twist/twitch when they hit something. At least some bushogs from the '60s used a solid, shaped cutter bar with short flat swinging knives at the ends. This prevents the twist as well as applying lighter pull on the moorings. With my JD127 Gyramor as example, the same size blade bolts are used, but to hold a 10" long knife weighing ~5#. I havnt had a blade failure but the holes do elongate - and Im not sure its all from wear. Recently Ive experimented with cutting at 750rpm drive speed. Iv looked hard and for the life of me I cant see any improvement in grass. WEIRD. :confused2:

I think there would be an advantage for trees but I havnt tried it yet.
larry
 
   / 540 RPM rotary cutter run 1000 RPM #29  
I run my Befco 110" RFM in Economy PTO setting (750?) on my JD 4720 at 2,000rpm engine speed.
1750 eng rpm gets you 540 out back in E-PTO setting.
Plus, I've Increased the blade tip speed up 2,000rpm faster by increasing the gearbox pulley size.

It's amazing how much cleaner & smoother it cuts now over the stock 14,998 SLOW blade tip speed.

I've ran the eng speed up to full throttle 2,600rpm to see how the mower re-acted - it WHIRLS like a helicopter & runs fine but it un-necessary & gets the gearbox hotter.

Mowers & Cutters cut better at 18-20k blade tip speed.
Most RFM & bush hogs only run 14-16k BTS - I'm sure for govnt safety BS reasons.

Faster than 20,000 is un-necessary - if u have a way to calculate your BTS.

Just my .02 cents :D
 

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