5425 any options to avoid? Must have?

[Zebra5]

Looking for a Used JD 5425. Any options to avoid? Must have? MY want List:
ISO operator station
MFWD
PowerReverser
E-PTO
Mid SCVs & joystick
Rear SCV
542 SL loader
Front guard
AG/R1 tires
Telescoping lower draft links

Options I am unsure about:

12/12 vs 24/24 PowerReverser
E hitch
Loader suspension

 

[tjkadar]

For me, the cab was a must have. The e-hitch is nice, but I was unable to get a tractor in my time frame with the e-hitch. If you can get it, it is a nice option, but don't lose sleep over it. I have the 12/12 transmission and have found it to be good for my applications. The 24/24 would have been cool, but I couldn't justify the cost for what I'm doing. Same thing with the loader suspension. For me, it was not needed. YMMV.

 

[ddivinia]

Looking for a Used JD 5425. Any options to avoid? Must have? MY want List:
ISO operator station
MFWD
PowerReverser
E-PTO
Mid SCVs & joystick
Rear SCV
542 SL loader
Front guard
AG/R1 tires
Telescoping lower draft links

Options I am unsure about:

12/12 vs 24/24 PowerReverser
E hitch
Loader suspension

e-hitch is WAY cool. And very handy - will have a switch on the fender - makes hooking implements much easier.

I have the 12/12. I would pass on the 24/24 due to the electronic PTO engagement. I am not sold on it with large implements (batwing, balers, etc). I like the feel of a manual engagement.

Loader suspension - do it. Hauling stuff across a rough pasture will sell you on it. It will beat you to death with it off. I know when I have it set wrong.

Do you plan on running a grappple or 4 way bucket. If so, consider the 3rd Mid SCV.

On the rear valves, depending on what you are doing with them you might want the deluxe valves. I wish I had them. When I run my weed wiper, I have to hold the valve on with a bungee cord. With the deluxe valves I just have to change a setting.

I have the 542 SL loader and I would go the other way - non self leveling. It limits the movement of the FEL and the visibility is worse with it.

Not sure of the other options on the ISO, but get all the lights they offer on it - very handy.

Also, the variable shuttle is nice, but not a must have.

Which wheels and tires are you getting? I would get the factory installed wheel weights (95lb) if I had to do it over.

Adjustable draft links - get them for sure.

I am sure I have confused you enough.

What do you plan on doing with the tractor?

D.

 

[Zebra5]

I have hunting property. Primary use will be brush hogging trails. Then the usual loader work, moving rocks, dirt brush, logs etc.
I plan on buying used, expecting the new 5x30 series coming out will drive the prices down.
I was thinking the SL loader for the increased capacity.
It will only see fair weather use, so no cab.

 

[dgl24087]

I have hunting property. Primary use will be brush hogging trails. Then the usual loader work, moving rocks, dirt brush, logs etc.
I plan on buying used, expecting the new 5x30 series coming out will drive the prices down.
I was thinking the SL loader for the increased capacity.
It will only see fair weather use, so no cab.

The new model may the opposite effect on pricing for used tractors, especially if the new tractor carries a significant price increase.

 

[ddivinia]

My experience has been unless you just stumble onto a deal - buy a new tractor. They really don't seem to depreciate much. Implements - you can get some deals on. I saved a small fortune buying used hay baling equipment.

D.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

It looks like you have most of the best "goodies" picked out.

I can tell you after having a 5420 in the family for 5 years, I wish we'd gotten the cab. They are the one thing that I can almost guarantee that any money spent upfront on, can be recouped if sold years later. There are many like me that have open tractors and would love to upgrade to a cab model. I look at pricing of used cab models and they are definitely about $6 grand higher than non-cab.

 

[Zebra5]

My experience has been unless you just stumble onto a deal - buy a new tractor. They really don't seem to depreciate much. Implements - you can get some deals on. I saved a small fortune buying used hay baling equipment.

D.

Local JD dealer does not have pricing or info on the new 5X30 series yet, but said expect to pay about 20% off what seller paid (not list price). I know Deeres hold their value (unlike cars) and at a point actually sell for more. I may have to look older (5420), but wanted the E PTO w/Reverser.

If I were in TX I would get a cab. I have done without one (cab) for the last 18 years and still don't want one.

 

[ddivinia]

Local JD dealer does not have pricing or info on the new 5X30 series yet, but said expect to pay about 20% off what seller paid (not list price). I know Deeres hold their value (unlike cars) and at a point actually sell for more. I may have to look older (5420), but wanted the E PTO w/Reverser.

If I were in TX I would get a cab. I have done without one (cab) for the last 18 years and still don't want one.

5603 has PR and ePTO, but it has a cab.

I wonder how much different the 30s are going to be. Has anybody heard anything?

D.

 

[RollingsFarms]

5603 has PR and ePTO, but it has a cab.

I wonder how much different the 30s are going to be. Has anybody heard anything?

D.

is that going to be the number series that replaces only the 5025 series or is it all 5003 and 5025 series? a fella on here said his dealer told him Deere was only renumbering the lines, but I don't know if that's all theyre planning to do or not.

 

[ddivinia]

is that going to be the number series that replaces only the 5025 series or is it all 5003 and 5025 series? a fella on here said his dealer told him Deere was only renumbering the lines, but I don't know if that's all theyre planning to do or not.

I don't know anything about the changed. They changed the 6000s and 7000s last year. Man, they have all kinds of gadgets on the 6x30s.

D.

 

[mstewart44]

Zebra, in regard to your 6-25 post, look for the new models to carry a price increase. From what I hear from my dealer, the re-work of the 03 and 25 models is largely to overcome the price increases they are having to deal with in steel prices. The dealer said it would be hard to justify a huge price increase without reworking the entire model line, but Deere has to do something to keep up with the rising prices of steel.

That being said, I also joined this message board before buying a tractor to use for our hunting property. We have 160 acres and bought a 5103 to plant food plots and mow roads and firebreaks. For our purposes (and our budget) this was the best choice. We often look at the newer tractors and all the bells and whistles on models like the 5603 and the '25 series. But, at the end of the day, we can't beat the deal we got on the 5103. If I were making a living driving that tractor or lived closer than 2 hours from the property where I could use the tractor more, I might have bought a different model. We bought the tractor in September of 2007. To date, we only have 35 hours on it. If you are not going to be able to use the tractor except on the weekends, you might consider the '03 series. Of course, this depends on your useage and budget. The 5425 is a super nice tractor but may be more than you need?? Hope this helps.

 

[Zebra5]

I may have been steered wrong, but my main reason to over look the 5X03 series was I heard they were imports to complete with the other imports. I prefer to buy made in USA.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I may have been steered wrong, but my main reason to over look the 5X03 series was I heard they were imports to complete with the other imports. I prefer to buy made in USA.

one of the things that has made me consider a 5x25 series over a 5x03 series is the power to weight ratio. i may be wrong in my logic but the 5x25 tractors are heavier and to me that would translate putting more power to the ground, as i would need 70% of the time(i do alot of ground engaging work). i've heard so many say that they run out of traction long before they run out of power with the 5x03 series, so that tells me to take a look at the weight difference of a 5x25 series. i'm not into all the fancy gadgets of the 5x25 series, but the extra weight really does grab my interest. and yes, the 5x03 series are made in India, but to me that really hasnt mattered since its made in a Deere plant with Deere quality control watching closely. i can tell you this though, if you'll notice on many of the 5x03 series tractors, the paint on the rims seems to fade pretty fast, and almost looks beige instead of yellow after only a short time. i don't know why, or if they even corrected this for the 2007/2008 models, but take a look for yourself and you will see what i'm talking about.

 

[mstewart44]

Zebra, you are correct, the 03 series are not made in the USA. However, as Rolling Farms points out, the quality control is all Deere. I worked my dealer and several others very hard about quality before buying our tractor. All of them had good things to say about the 03 series, especially since I was giving them the option to sell us something else.

With regard to Rolling Farms' point of weight ratio, he may be right and it is probably something to consider. My point in my earlier post was simply a cost to use ratio. It sounds like Zebra is going to use his tractor like I use mine, for a piece of hunting property and it may see limited use. One of the few complaints of my tractor is the skinny tires that will sometimes spin in dry conditions. The 5103 has the skinniest tires of the 03 series. The cost of new wider tires (which would require new rims) was not worth the upgrade to me at this time. Again, purely a cost vs. use issue. I'm sure R Farms uses his tractor a lot more than I use mine. If I were using mine more often, I would have most likely gotten a 25 series.

As far as the paint fading on the rims, I can't see where that alone would justify another $10,000 to move to the 25 series. I have a hard time relating rim paint quality to the quality of the entire machine. A $5.00 can of spray paint fixes that problem. If you are going to use your tractor similarly to how we use ours, I would suggest looking at the 5303. Good luck.

 

[dieselram]

Get every option you can, its only money and you can't take it with you!

 

[RollingsFarms]

Zebra, you are correct, the 03 series are not made in the USA. However, as Rolling Farms points out, the quality control is all Deere. I worked my dealer and several others very hard about quality before buying our tractor. All of them had good things to say about the 03 series, especially since I was giving them the option to sell us something else.

With regard to Rolling Farms' point of weight ratio, he may be right and it is probably something to consider. My point in my earlier post was simply a cost to use ratio. It sounds like Zebra is going to use his tractor like I use mine, for a piece of hunting property and it may see limited use. One of the few complaints of my tractor is the skinny tires that will sometimes spin in dry conditions. The 5103 has the skinniest tires of the 03 series. The cost of new wider tires (which would require new rims) was not worth the upgrade to me at this time. Again, purely a cost vs. use issue. I'm sure R Farms uses his tractor a lot more than I use mine. If I were using mine more often, I would have most likely gotten a 25 series.

As far as the paint fading on the rims, I can't see where that alone would justify another $10,000 to move to the 25 series. I have a hard time relating rim paint quality to the quality of the entire machine. A $5.00 can of spray paint fixes that problem. If you are going to use your tractor similarly to how we use ours, I would suggest looking at the 5303. Good luck.

I agree, the rim fading issue wouldn't make me come off of $10,000. it was just something i had noticed about that series of tractor and it made me think because i hadn't noticed it on any other JD series. didn't know if they were using a different type of paint or what that made them fade so fast. rims rusting prematurely was my concern and that's why i hoped they've fixed that small problem. other then minor detail, and the skinny tires loosing traction at times in dry conditions, those are some great tractors!