5570 Mhindra

[mowingken]

Welcome Ken. Sorry to hear of your troubles.

Did they tell you what the exact Check Engine Code number was?

It sounds like the first thing Mahindra recommends on all of these tractors with an "issue" is to reflash the ECU to update the software.

I would ask them to plug it in to the Garuda software and see what the actual check engine codes coming up are.
Here is a link to a manual you can use for reference: http://kisandost.com/KisanMitraWeb/MarketBulletinView?moduleType=SubjectPartFile&FileName=203
Make note, an OBD2 reader does not give you accurate read out of the codes or the proper code. The factory Garuda software must be used.

They should be able to use the modern electronics to their advantage and pin point the problem.

I would ask for thorough explanation when they're doing their work. I can't stand when they say it had a code and we fixed it. Oh, really? What was the code, how did you trouble shoot the proposed problem, how did you "fix" it and why is the MIL still on again if you "fixed" it? Haha, i literally get frustrated every time i read these threads because it's almost the same story from everyone. The dealer/techs/mahindra or whomever suggested a reflash, and we think that was it. Motors are basic, they need air, fuel, and ignition. There are a few systems that control that. And now there are a few systems that regulate and monitor it.

I browsed the manual i sent the link for, and i can't find something as specific as what youre mentioning for symptoms.
My questions would be, will the tractor idle for 15 minutes straight? or does it always just stall after 4 minutes. or is it indeed 2 minutes after in gear, no matter how long idling, it stalls.
Really, just need to know what MIL codes it's throwing at that time then too.

Good luck and keep us posted.

They don't tell me anything. When I ask the just talk around the question. The invoice that comes back with the tractor isn't any help because ti is either blank with only labor charges of something really off the wall Thanks for your input I really appreciate it. Ken

 

[MatHaas]

They don't tell me anything. When I ask the just talk around the question. The invoice that comes back with the tractor isn't any help because ti is either blank with only labor charges of something really off the wall Thanks for your input I really appreciate it. Ken

Sounds like they don't really know what they're doing. Welcome to the world of techs being a dime a dozen, where you never turn a wrench in your life, go to school for 18 months,and read from a manual to trouble shoot something and still struggle.

Sorry I'm bitter about that topic but that's how I see it 85% of the time.

I also get the feeling that Mahindra doesn't provide the best support to the dealers. So it depends where you're at, and what the techs/dealers have experience with or resources. Some guys know the right people to call who can help. And others don't.

This topic seems way too common. And it's sad.

That's why I'm just way pushy.
I would show up and ask to talk to the tech. I'd be like there is an MIL, so what is the exact active codes. Let's go through the Garuda software. Ok now we have a code, and reference that manual I shared to diagnose or confirm the problem. And if they can't do that then I'd call them out on it. If they don't know how to do it, that's fine, just be honest. Don't beat around the bush.

But I'm an a-hole like that. Haha.

Hang tight man and hopefully they get their heads out of their ***.

I wish the Garuda software was available for purchase. Or at least a simple code reader for them. I'll do some digging.

 

[mowingken]

Thanks to every one that replied to my nightmare. Got a call from the dealers service manager and was told that they had finally solved the problem They finally checked the fuel and found that that was the problem. Bad fuel. I had ask them the second time that they had the tractor if they had checked the fuel and the only reply I received was the the computer had given them some code. As I have already mentioned I bought the tractor from its original owners son and had no way of knowing if the fuel was good or not. Anyway I was told that they drained the tank, flushed and cleaned the tank two or three times and put in fuel that they knew was fresh and changed the fuel filter which contains a water sensor. I ask if I could drive the tractor at their dealership and they said okay. I drove 67 miles to dealer and drove the tractor for 10 or so minutes with no problems.
The tractor was delivered and I immediately filled it with 10 gallons of new fuel, since the tank indicator registered only about a quarter of a tank. Treated the fuel with Bio-Clean Tank and System cleaner, let it sit over night to do its job. The next day drove the tractor with no problems so I went to work putting it through its paces. After about 15-20 minutes the water indicator light came on so I drove the tractor back to the garage and proceeded to check for such. After reading the owners manual I figured out that there is no separate water separator on this tractor. The water indicator is located on the bottom of the fuel filter. The owners manual gave instruction at how to drain the filter which I did and sure enough there was water present. I drained a goodly ,amount or what I thought was a goodly amount, out and started the engine and the water indicator light is still registering water present. The dealer evidently cleaned and flushed the tank with water and never rinsed with diesel fuel. So I am now on my way to drain more from the fuel filter. I will keep you all informed and again thank all of you for the quick response to my problems.
Ken

 

[dickfoster]

Thanks to every one that replied to my nightmare. Got a call from the dealers service manager and was told that they had finally solved the problem They finally checked the fuel and found that that was the problem. Bad fuel. I had ask them the second time that they had the tractor if they had checked the fuel and the only reply I received was the the computer had given them some code. As I have already mentioned I bought the tractor from its original owners son and had no way of knowing if the fuel was good or not. Anyway I was told that they drained the tank, flushed and cleaned the tank two or three times and put in fuel that they knew was fresh and changed the fuel filter which contains a water sensor. I ask if I could drive the tractor at their dealership and they said okay. I drove 67 miles to dealer and drove the tractor for 10 or so minutes with no problems.
The tractor was delivered and I immediately filled it with 10 gallons of new fuel, since the tank indicator registered only about a quarter of a tank. Treated the fuel with Bio-Clean Tank and System cleaner, let it sit over night to do its job. The next day drove the tractor with no problems so I went to work putting it through its paces. After about 15-20 minutes the water indicator light came on so I drove the tractor back to the garage and proceeded to check for such. After reading the owners manual I figured out that there is no separate water separator on this tractor. The water indicator is located on the bottom of the fuel filter. The owners manual gave instruction at how to drain the filter which I did and sure enough there was water present. I drained a goodly ,amount or what I thought was a goodly amount, out and started the engine and the water indicator light is still registering water present. The dealer evidently cleaned and flushed the tank with water and never rinsed with diesel fuel. So I am now on my way to drain more from the fuel filter. I will keep you all informed and again thank all of you for the quick response to my problems.
Ken

I simply can't imagine anyone attempting to clean a fuel tank with water.

 

[MatHaas]

Thanks to every one that replied to my nightmare. Got a call from the dealers service manager and was told that they had finally solved the problem They finally checked the fuel and found that that was the problem. Bad fuel. I had ask them the second time that they had the tractor if they had checked the fuel and the only reply I received was the the computer had given them some code. As I have already mentioned I bought the tractor from its original owners son and had no way of knowing if the fuel was good or not. Anyway I was told that they drained the tank, flushed and cleaned the tank two or three times and put in fuel that they knew was fresh and changed the fuel filter which contains a water sensor. I ask if I could drive the tractor at their dealership and they said okay. I drove 67 miles to dealer and drove the tractor for 10 or so minutes with no problems.
The tractor was delivered and I immediately filled it with 10 gallons of new fuel, since the tank indicator registered only about a quarter of a tank. Treated the fuel with Bio-Clean Tank and System cleaner, let it sit over night to do its job. The next day drove the tractor with no problems so I went to work putting it through its paces. After about 15-20 minutes the water indicator light came on so I drove the tractor back to the garage and proceeded to check for such. After reading the owners manual I figured out that there is no separate water separator on this tractor. The water indicator is located on the bottom of the fuel filter. The owners manual gave instruction at how to drain the filter which I did and sure enough there was water present. I drained a goodly ,amount or what I thought was a goodly amount, out and started the engine and the water indicator light is still registering water present. The dealer evidently cleaned and flushed the tank with water and never rinsed with diesel fuel. So I am now on my way to drain more from the fuel filter. I will keep you all informed and again thank all of you for the quick response to my problems.
Ken

Yikes. Sorry to hear the dealer still isn't up to par. But lets hope in the near future you're back up and running with a good tractor.

So the water separator is built in to the filter?

Maybe you want to put an inline water separator on it. I was considering one of those clear ones that you can see if there's any water in, but never decided and didn't see many reviews. My 3550 has an inline one where i just pull the plug to evaluate the fuel.

There should be a main fuel tank drain on the bottom back side of the tank (at least that's where mine is). You may want to consider just doing a total flush again and call it a day. drain that old fuel (save it for starting fires), and flush the tank with clean fuel, then refill with clean stuff. Maybe drain the filter and lines too, but you'll have to re-prime the fuel lines to get any air out. But that way you'd know its all completely covered.

Or if you filter does have a built in separator, just be on top of pulling the drain and getting that water out.

Either way, hope you're back to 100% soon.
Keep us posted!