64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood

   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood
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#31  
SoundGuy, it is not IF it goes under, it already is 4 feet under. Now it is a matter of when it stops playing submarine and reemerges. Today should show the top couple of inches again. Due to the duration of being under, I think I will go with diesel first because of the penetrating value.
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood #32  
SoundGuy, it is not IF it goes under, it already is 4 feet under. Now it is a matter of when it stops playing submarine and reemerges. Today should show the top couple of inches again. Due to the duration of being under, I think I will go with diesel first because of the penetrating value.

When I originally posted I was responding to the 'if it goes under' issue.

Obviously it's already under.. but should be salvageable. I have a 541 that was just as under water in katrina.

I opened the bung trains and pressure washed her, then did a diesel and alcohol multi stage rinse. the pressure wash pushed out 'inches' of sediment from the hyds sump. trans and engine were essentially clean, just wet. lost a couple gauges and switches, battery. had to remove and clean the starter, but it survived.
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood
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#33  
Thank You Soundguy. Between Patrick, 1st Deuce, and you I feel a lot better going into this. Just a couple of things. I am rusty on some terminology. What is the "bung trains". I get the diesel and alcohol part with the alcohol rinsing off the diesel residual. But I am drawing a blank on what kind of alcohol. The starter I already thought of, the gauges First Deuce warned me about, and the battery was removed. As of yesterday the tractor in now showing about 2 foot above water, but still looking at 2 more weeks or so.

Rick Sladewski
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood #34  
That was my phone creatively helping me invent new words with it's imaginative auto misscorrect feature.

My fords have bunG DRAINS.. big 2" drains. I pulled those drains and used low pressure, pressure washer setting and blew out the transmission and rear end and hydraulics .

I then replaced those drains and filled the sumps up with a mix of diesel, alcohol and atf fluid. Any type of cheap atf, store brand, whatever. 1 quart per 5 gallons of diesel, and on the alcohol, a couple pints of 90% rubbing alcohol, or even denatured 100% alcohol.

Water and oil don't mix, but can form temporary and stable emulsions. The emulsion looks like a milkshake. The diesel helps wash the oily emulsion away as it is a petro solvent.. it will help dissolve the oil portion of the stable emulsion. Water is polar. Alcohol is a polar solvent. That's right.. alcohol will technically 'dissolve' water and carry it out in solution, vs suspension. The water/alcohol forms an azeotrope... and will have a modified evaporation rate and will not fall out of solution, but will evaporate evenly.

Thus your pressure wash drives the big sediments out, and then the flush grabs all the oily water.

For the engine, I just did the flush, no pressure wash. if all you filters are in place ont he engine, you shouldn't get too much sedimentation, if any in there unless the turbidity of the water was extremely high, making it look like cloudy water. If it was simply 'rising water' usually not much sediment is carried high.
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood #35  
Will the water be down enough to do anything before Michael adds to it again?
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood #36  
U better tow it to higher ground..in a HURRY.. it looks like we're gonna get another one..
Stay safe..
 
   / 64 MF 35 Industrial Caught in flood
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#38  
First off, Thank You Soundguy. That is exactly what I needed to know. Sediment should not be the factor here as it was a slow rise (relatively) and when the porch and garage floor emptied there was none to speak of. As for now, well there is no quickly anything. The water on the road to get in (see other post) only went down enough for the truck to get in, my friends, not mine, on Tues afternoon (9 Oct) yesterday and he had FEMA there as soon as they could get down the road. I sure did not want to add to that confusion for him. Today is / was / will be heavy rains and the road will not be usable AGAIN. (1 lousy culvert would stop all of that, everyone on the road has been petitioning the city, for years, they will not listen) so anyway no way to move / fix or anything. Plus it looks like the river WILL RISE again within the week. Not anyway near as high, but could go halfway up tractor if like Matthew flood. Everything is in a holding pattern, it sucks, but it is a tractor, an older noncomputer running tractor and I know I can redo it if I want, these older things were way over built compared to todays standards. My friends house is a whole different story.
 
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#40  
Finally got down to the tractor yesterday the 14th. Drained everything. It was totally filled. Everything EXCEPT the radiator. After draining, removed the plugs, took off distributor cap and rotor and filled to the brim everything with diesel and denatured alcohol including a cup into each cylinder ( 1 pint to 5 gal ratio ) it took 30 gallons. Drained the gas tank but refilled it with gas mixed with 360 stabilizer after flushing out with straight gas. Was able to easily turn the crank by hand enough to shoot out the diesel from each spark plug hole (then refilled them). The gauges did not have water in them, but some condensation. Power sprayed the whole thing down and degreased the whole thing. I do not know about the starter and generator yet, but am hopeful. will go back later this week to drain and refill and redo all filters etc. I guess I will find out then.
 

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