7235 &7275 Motor breaking and excessive clutches
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JimR
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If you want to know my opinion. I think it would be a great case for a clash action lawsuit. Ignorance on their part should require them to fix any machine that had this problem or pay the piper.
Not everybody needed those brackets installed. The units were tested and operated under normal conditions.
Only time the brackets were needed when people overloaded the units.
So now, for the past 5+ years or so the brackets have been designed into the loader mounts.
When problems arose the brackets were designed and sent out to dealers.
Cubhaters problem isn't/wasn't with the BRACKETS. It was his engine.
I saw pictures of Cubhaters unit plus I had 3 reps travel to the dealer and take a look at it.
It's a well "used" unit.
Im glad he's got back. I had alot of parts expedited to the dealer so he could get back sooner.
If you guys have any further issues you need to work with your dealer and have him contact Cub Cadet.
Have a nice day.
Only time the brackets were needed when people overloaded the units.
So now, for the past 5+ years or so the brackets have been designed into the loader mounts.
When problems arose the brackets were designed and sent out to dealers.
Cubhaters problem isn't/wasn't with the BRACKETS. It was his engine.
I saw pictures of Cubhaters unit plus I had 3 reps travel to the dealer and take a look at it.
It's a well "used" unit.
Im glad he's got back. I had alot of parts expedited to the dealer so he could get back sooner.
If you guys have any further issues you need to work with your dealer and have him contact Cub Cadet.
Have a nice day.
JimR
Elite Member
This message is for you Cub Tech. According to you these machines that break are because the loader was overloaded. Now let me get this straight. Cub has Mitsubishi make a tractor that uses a loader that lifts too much weight and breaks the tractor. Am I correct in stating this fact. Because if not, then how can you overload a loader that is made to lift XXX amount of weigh safely? If a loader can lift 900 pounds. How do you overload it? So to me it seems that the loader is doing its job and the tractor is not capable of handling the workload of the loader.
JerryG
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There are more that one way to over load a loader or tractor than with the amount of dead weight lifted. There are many that think that if it is a tractor, that they can ram, pull or yank it as hard a you could with a D9 Cat.
JimR
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I didn't think of those scenarios as using it as a bulldozer or ramming things. All that keeps getting mentioned is overloading the loader. That to me means lifting too much with it. Using the tractor as a dozer is tractor abuse. Every machine has its limits before something breaks. Look at a Ford and you will see twice the loader mount bolts on the side of the block. They were thinking when they built their tractors.
JerryG
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<font color="blue"> Using the tractor as a dozer is tractor abuse </font>
That is right, but there are many times that that is exactly what happens when a owner crys to the manufacture that they want something fixed under warranty. All of the sudden it is a manufactures defect and not operator error or abuse.
That is right, but there are many times that that is exactly what happens when a owner crys to the manufacture that they want something fixed under warranty. All of the sudden it is a manufactures defect and not operator error or abuse.
Outlander1
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IMHO I doubt that MTD had Mitsu make tractors specifically for them. Mitsu sells the same tractors all over the world. These are basically light duty utility rice field machines that MTD got the best price on. I would also suggest that since all of the attachments are aftermarket and not Mitsu units you use them at your own risk. Just because MTD or Woods or whomever says they are suitable really does not mean squat. When Mitsu steps up and says publically OK we approve, then I'll pay attention. When I look at the the so called loader mounting bosses on my 7205 I do have thoughts about being cautious. I imagine/suspect that Woods engineered their loader to fit the mounts and never really scientifically stressed them until they broke. I have a loader hung on those mounts but I wonder what kind of little rice field device they were really meant to support. Those bosses are just cast iron. High stress mounts need to be forged steel.
JimR
Elite Member
Good point on the making of a tractor and testing it to see if it is a capable machine as is or not. The one thing that would have cured this problem is more bolts on the side of the block to support the loader mounts.
zizbang
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Do I need these brackets?
I have a 7265, which I believe is just a newer version of the 7235. Has the design been revised to better handle a loader?
It has a Bush Hog 2240QT loader with a lift capacity of 1150# at the pivot pin at full height at 2000 psi. Doing some quick math on my tractors system pressure of 1700 psi, my loader should lift less than 1000# at the pivot pin.
I try not to shock load it by ramming or driving fast over bumps with a full load. But, I do max out it's capacity when I move logs and, sometimes, gravel.
I read the comments about the light duty rice machine. I really doubt that it differs much from Iseki, Hinomoto, Kubota, Shibaura, etc. I've looked at them in dealer's lots and they all look pretty similar. I don't have any seat time on other CUT's besides my 7265, only farm tractors. And, yes, they are a little lighter duty than those.
I have been using it with a Hoelscher pan which pulls pretty hard. It seems to handle it ok. If someone has broken their CUT by using it this way, please tell me now before mine ends up in the shop.
Thanks,
Mike.
I have a 7265, which I believe is just a newer version of the 7235. Has the design been revised to better handle a loader?
It has a Bush Hog 2240QT loader with a lift capacity of 1150# at the pivot pin at full height at 2000 psi. Doing some quick math on my tractors system pressure of 1700 psi, my loader should lift less than 1000# at the pivot pin.
I try not to shock load it by ramming or driving fast over bumps with a full load. But, I do max out it's capacity when I move logs and, sometimes, gravel.
I read the comments about the light duty rice machine. I really doubt that it differs much from Iseki, Hinomoto, Kubota, Shibaura, etc. I've looked at them in dealer's lots and they all look pretty similar. I don't have any seat time on other CUT's besides my 7265, only farm tractors. And, yes, they are a little lighter duty than those.
I have been using it with a Hoelscher pan which pulls pretty hard. It seems to handle it ok. If someone has broken their CUT by using it this way, please tell me now before mine ends up in the shop.
Thanks,
Mike.
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