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[oosik]

I have never had to use deadly force against another person. It's come MIGHTY close - once. Looking down the barrel of my Remington pump 12 gauge - one fellow choose to be a smart a*s. Fortunately, for all concerned, his mind quickly changed when I jacked a shell into the chamber. That - "click-click"- sound has an amazing effect.

The County Sheriff came out and talked to me following that event. By word of mouth - the two fellows in the pickup & the County Sheriff spread the word.

I've not had an intruder since that event - 37 years.

The word I was given, at that time, "Wait until they are inside your house".

The problem with this scenario - in the beginning, several came out to fish in my little lake. They had no desire to enter my house. Heck - most didn't even know my driveway existed or that I was living on the property now. The lake was stocked by two Dr's we leased the property to. The trout grew to a remarkable size. Many had trespassed to fish in the little lake for many years. They walked in from the county road - a one mile trek. There was nobody living on the property to discourage this.

With the exception of the two fellows, mentioned at the beginning, they all grudgingly turned around and left the property.

The official name of the little lake - Martin Lk. It's named after the original homesteader. It's name locally was - Mystery Lk.

 

[k0ua]

I have never had to use deadly force against another person. It's come MIGHTY close - once. Looking down the barrel of my Remington pump 12 gauge - one fellow choose to be a smart a*s. Fortunately, for all concerned, his mind quickly changed when I jacked a shell into the chamber. That - "click-click"- sound has an amazing effect.

The County Sheriff came out and talked to me following that event. By word of mouth - the two fellows in the pickup & the County Sheriff spread the word.

I've not had an intruder since that event - 37 years.

The word I was given, at that time, "Wait until they are inside your house".

The problem with this scenario - in the beginning, several came out to fish in my little lake. They had no desire to enter my house. Heck - most didn't even know my driveway existed or that I was living on the property now. The lake was stocked by two Dr's we leased the property to. The trout grew to a remarkable size. Many had trespassed to fish in the little lake for many years. They walked in from the county road - a one mile trek. There was nobody living on the property to discourage this.

With the exception of the two fellows, mentioned at the beginning, they all grudgingly turned around and left the property.

The official name of the little lake - Martin Lk. It's named after the original homesteader. It's name locally was - Mystery Lk.

Oh, man, now I know where I am going fishing...

 

[CobyRupert]

I have never had to use deadly force against another person. It's come MIGHTY close - once. Looking down the barrel of my Remington pump 12 gauge - one fellow choose to be a smart a*s. Fortunately, for all concerned, his mind quickly changed when I jacked a shell into the chamber. That - "click-click"- sound has an amazing effect.

The word I was given, at that time, "Wait until they are inside your house".

The problem with this scenario - in the beginning, several came out to fish in my little lake. They had no desire to enter my house.

When you pointed the loaded gun at them someone, were they threatening you?

Here in NY, I think that would get you a vacation at the "Greybar Hotel" for menacing unless they were. Even for trespassers.

It's more of a grey area if you're just holding it on whether that's menacing, depending on what you say about it.

I was always taught to never point a gun at someone unless you're plan on shooting them. If you're don't pull the trigger, you're just threatening them. Then it's a "you said/they said" argument in front of the Law. Dead men make bad witnesses.

 

[Sigarms]

When you pointed the loaded gun at them someone, were they threatening you?

In our parts, it's not uncommen for ATV'ers or motocross riders tresspassing on private property to come across a gun range that they've tresspassed on in the middle of during live fire.

Works better than signs or talking...

 

[drssg]

I have a handgun safe that is supposed to open via a fingerprint or a key. For non-emergency use, the fingerprint is more convenient, but I wouldn’t want to depend on it in an emergency.

If I swipe my finger on it too fast or too slow, it doesn’t work. If my swipe is too long or too short, It doesn’t work. Any residual moisture on my hand, such as just getting out of the shower, and it doesn’t work.

I like the idea, but I would do more research before trying another model.

 

[Sigarms]

I have a handgun safe that is supposed to open via a fingerprint or a key. For non-emergency use, the fingerprint is more convenient, but I wouldn’t want to depend on it in an emergency.

If I swipe my finger on it too fast or too slow, it doesn’t work. If my swipe is too long or too short, It doesn’t work. Any residual moisture on my hand, such as just getting out of the shower, and it doesn’t work.

I like the idea, but I would do more research before trying another model.

Nice thing about the shot lock is it's a mechanical push button "safe" to open. No batteries, nothing to read, just know the combination that you're set for which buttons to push.

 

[oosik]

Coby - that's what's so great about being out here in the PNW. A person has control over who is allowed on his property. We have a lot less concern about being Politically Correct or that we might hurt the feelings of a trespasser, damage their fragile ego, interrupt their God given rights to illegal entry - etc.

However - I will not argue the merits of this situation. Its a loose/loose situation - not worthy of debate.

You might have been a tad disturbed about the "laws of the land" when I first went to Alaska, also. 1960 - Alaska - trespass was the exact same as entry with the intent to do bodily harm. You darn well wanted to know exactly where you were in those days. The old homesteaders never hesitated....

Remember the old saying - "Dead men tell no tales" . Well, they have to be found first.........

Anyhow - have a great day. It's raining this morning - it's sure welcome.

 

[oosik]

James- K0UA - unfortunately, there are no longer rainbow trout in the little lake. Trout need running water( river, stream ) to spawn. Meaning they would have to be restocked every year. There is no longer a really close place where I can purchase trout.

The little lake has ginormous bass now. They DO spawn in a lake. I enjoy standing on the cliffs and watching them swim past. Rank & file - smaller in the lead - lunkers to the rear. It's my greatest pleasure just to watch them and throw out an occasional bucket of ants for their snacks.

 

[k0ua]

James- K0UA - unfortunately, there are no longer rainbow trout in the little lake. Trout need running water( river, stream ) to spawn. Meaning they would have to be restocked every year. There is no longer a really close place where I can purchase trout.

The little lake has ginormous bass now. They DO spawn in a lake. I enjoy standing on the cliffs and watching them swim past. Rank & file - smaller in the lead - lunkers to the rear. It's my greatest pleasure just to watch them and throw out an occasional bucket of ants for their snacks.

Bass? I am definitely sneaking in there now... Just kidding.. I would never trespass on someone's property, and hate it when people trespass on mine.

 

[oosik]

Am I worried about you or most others on TBN "sneaking" in - NOT IN THE LEAST.

Just so you have an understanding - - the "lunkers" look just like big 'ol thermo-nucular submarines. Swimming along at the rear of the pack.

Throw something out and try to catch them. The small ones are right there - Johnny-on-the-spot. The big ones got big by being smart.