Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!

   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!
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#101  
Hemlock, kindly like the Tulip Poplar of the mid Atlantic rein. 👍
Ok, yeah I see it now! I got some nice hemlock logs I have milled. Not very common around here but nice wood. Might have to make some siding out of the stuff I have left, I like the knotty look of it!
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #102  
I remember somewhere I heard if the tree is curved or twisted on the stump, it will be that way after cutting the logs. Possibly even after jointing and planing to final size. I have some that I book matched resaw, and they difinitely bowed end to end. Before resaw, nice looking straight piece. Resaw, bowed. Bummer. Jon

Perhaps the prime reason why human planted and planned forests for timber is so popular?

I try to plan for it by making my cuts close, but not to final size, and then remeasuring and doing the final cut, but it is a pain. For me, the tension is always about how much extra to leave. I think that it also depends on the species of wood, in addition to how the tree grew and how it was milled.

Funnily enough the same thing happens in milling or cutting metal. I know of one company that mills about 95% of the final object and then parks the (large) partial part outside for a year of temperature cycling to "relax" the tensions in the metal piece before final machining. It made for the most stable and precise machines in their field, but it also meant that they were forecasting their demand more than a year in advance, which did not always work out. Their parts sometimes had long lead times.

@Rustyiron I love the generator shed.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #103  
Perhaps the prime reason why human planted and planned forests for timber is so popular?

I try to plan for it by making my cuts close, but not to final size, and then remeasuring and doing the final cut, but it is a pain. For me, the tension is always about how much extra to leave. I think that it also depends on the species of wood, in addition to how the tree grew and how it was milled.
I had no idea of the depth and complexity of milling logs when I first bought a sawmill. Today, I am aware the complexity exists but still have huge gaps in knowledge.

Trees growing on a slope typically will have tension induced from the extra strength needed on one side of the tree. So the pith will probably be off center.

If you mill up some 1x12's or whatever, how you cut it from the cant is going to affect which way its going to move or warp as it dries. Plain saw and get cupping. Plain saw through the pith and watch the board crack right down the center when drying.

Wood shrinks in all dimensions as it dries. So you need to mill a larger board than you need to account for shrinkage. But cut it using quartersaw method and you will alter how much it shrinks in thickness compared to width. And it goes on and on and on.

And then you get to heartwood vs sapwood. If the board you cut have some sapwood along the edges, its going to cause more problems when drying. Sapwood dries faster than heartwood, which induces tension that causes cracking.

You can air dry or kiln dry some species rapidly-- like pine. Try the same speed of drying with oak and watch it crack and check on you. If you exceed the maximum moisture removal rate when drying it will cause problems.

I haven't even touched on the bug calamity that has ruined probably 50+% of wood I milled over the last few years. This is a prime reason to keep a very clean area around the sawmill. Bits and pieces of wood, which are so common as a byproduct of handling the logs, are excellent breeding grounds for bugs. If you don't stay on top of keeping things clean you'll pay the price.

When I first got my sawmill, I expected I'd be the lumber king in short order. Throw the logs on, saw them, and take nice lumber off. But it is so, so much deeper than that. Instead, it has taken years to learn just how much I do not know.
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #104  
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!
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I haven't even touched on the bug calamity that has ruined probably 50+% of wood I milled over the last few years. This is a prime reason to keep a very clean area around the sawmill. Bits and pieces of wood, which are so common as a byproduct of handling the logs, are excellent breeding grounds for bugs. If you don't stay on top of keeping things clean you'll pay the price.

When I first got my sawmill, I expected I'd be the lumber king in short order. Throw the logs on, saw them, and take nice lumber off. But it is so, so much deeper than that. Instead, it has taken years to learn just how much I do not know.
Yeah, I hope I can stay ahead of the bug issue. I mean the area around my mill is pretty clean, but how clean can you really keep it? I need to get a new sprayer and do the borax thing. That is bound to help.
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #106  
@HawkinsHollow A leaf blower and some sort of inorganic pad around the mill helps. As does having "clean" areas vs "raw" areas.

On a related note, do you know how much borax is needed for fire resistance? (Lb/sqft?)

All the best,

Peter
 
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Took my small mill on a trip to my brother's house in Alachua, Fl over the weekend. 20250216_102128.jpg

He had three red oaks blow down in a storm a few months ago. We Milled 6 - 8' logs. I talked to him today and he has restacked and stickered the lumber in a area that gets more air flow. Another brother showed up and asked if we could cut some rounds for a friend of his that's getting married.
 

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   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #108  
Took my small mill on a trip to my brother's house in Alachua, Fl over the weekend.View attachment 2707796

He had three red oaks blow down in a storm a few months ago. We Milled 6 - 8' logs. I talked to him today and he has restacked and stickered the lumber in a area that gets more air flow. Another brother showed up and asked if we could cut some rounds for a friend of his that's getting married.
Best post I've read today!!!
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!
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Well the wood is out of the kiln and in the shop for processing. The ash came out beautiful! A quick planer and jointer run on each side and it should be ready to roll. The white oak is a little rougher, but I think the planer will straighten it out just fine. There will be defects, knots splits, etc. but I am ok with that. The wife and I both prefer a rustic look and it will go better with the #2 white oak flooring. I bought some epoxy and wood colored tints to fill these with before planing. The black walnut is perfect! I CANNOT wait to see what this wood looks like planed, sanded and finished.
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