Well ran some air up thru the fuel line and a little gas came out. Had another person watching with a flash light and saw bubbles in the tank but still no gas coming out when I turn the key. The tractor still wants to crank On the first key turn or run and does nothing if turned to the start side of the key. Plus no fuel and the headlights do not come on in that position. I am wondering since everything worked fine before if all of this is hooked up to the switch? Which I mean when in a normal operation as soon as the engine starts the key goes back to the run position which might make everything work? Just a thought you guys know more about these than I do. Well I will get a switch and carb gasket ordered tomorrow and see what that does. But I want everyone's ideas and input because I have no idea what is going on here.
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Well ran some air up thru the fuel line and a little gas came out. Had another person watching with a flash light and saw bubbles in the tank but still no gas coming out when I turn the key. The tractor still wants to crank On the first key turn or run and does nothing if turned to the start side of the key. Plus no fuel and the headlights do not come on in that position. I am wondering since everything worked fine before if all of this is hooked up to the switch? Which I mean when in a normal operation as soon as the engine starts the key goes back to the run position which might make everything work? Just a thought you guys know more about these than I do. Well I will get a switch and carb gasket ordered tomorrow and see what that does. But I want everyone's ideas and input because I have no idea what is going on here.
Ok guys update went to John Deere they want $140 for the switch and board ( they come together ) so the guy said that they were not returnable which I kind of new. So I said I will go home and pull it and clean it up and look for some brown or burnt places on the board so I did but so far I haven't seen anything. I don't know the correct way to check it with a meter except for the wires and they all checked out good. I guess it could be in the switch part but I don't know how to check it for continuity as far what to where. I will check this thing out for a couple of days and if I don't hear anything from you guys I guess I will have to bite the bullet. Ok if you think of something please chime in I am all ears. Thanks weeder
Richard001
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Weeder,
Could you make a PDF of the schematic and/or wiring diagram and post it here? Can't help you trouble shoot without info.
Could you make a PDF of the schematic and/or wiring diagram and post it here? Can't help you trouble shoot without info.
Well if I new how to do that I would and there are so many schematics I really don't know which one is the right one or maybe 2 of them? I will tell you what has happened today. I pulled the switch and board out of the tractor both were very dirty. I used some elec cleaner and a soft brush to clean up the boards and the connectors. I looked for burned spots on the boards and I couldn't find any. checked all wires for continuity and that came out fine double checked the 2 fuses and they were fine. So for kickers I put it back in kind of temporarily with the key switch left out of the chassis. The switch worked perfect and the fuel pump filled the filter and the engine fired. I did this 2 more times and then it went back to the same old thing of cranking on the first turn of the switch. Well yes, I am frustrated so I went and ordered a new complete as they call it ignition module. They said it would be in tomorrow afternoon so we will see I know I cannot return it so I guess I am doing process of elimination. Yes Richard I wish I could make a copy of all of that but I really don't know how to do it. I am not that good on a computer anyway. Let's see what this does and if it doesn't work well I am back to where I started. Thanks weeder
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did you clean the switch by spraying brake cleaner in it? Do so. Let it dry. Apply something like fluid film or dielectric grease and see if that helps. The switch on my Kioti tractor was misbehaving, and this fixed it.
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http://www.mytractorforum.com/images/reference/JOHNDEERE425445455.pdf
Here's the entire 425 and 445/455. service manual.
Make sure you're in the right section/engine, Kawa or Briggs, etc. It's got everything on earth about these mowers.
Here's the entire 425 and 445/455. service manual.
Make sure you're in the right section/engine, Kawa or Briggs, etc. It's got everything on earth about these mowers.
Richard001
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Thanks to Coyote for posting that. Now Weeder, what engine do you have?
Richard
Richard
Well guys a very disappointing day so far. The ignition module came in which includes the key switch and board I hooked it all up as the other was and the tractor started 6-7 times but as I started the tractor each time I could hear the solenoid trying to stay engaged and then it would release. Finally it went back to the old way of trying to start when the key is in the run position. I guess I will try to figure this thing out one way or another. Is there a way to bench test the starter with a 12 volt battery? If the solenoid is the problem then it should do it then correct? I will double check all the wiring and see if something has gotten mashed or messed up when I had it on the workbench fixing the cam. I priced a new starter not cheap at all.