A Fork In The Road

   / A Fork In The Road #21  
No idea on the LS tractor, have only briefly looked at them. Only recently has a dealer come within I would say about 100 miles of me.

I have a B2710 Kubota I have used 6 foot rear finish mower with. We have zoysia grass and when it is hot and wet it can bog that tractor down. Other wise it handles the mower well. That tractor handles a 53" rough cut mower very well. Tractor is 4 wheel drive and hydro. Not dusty with that set up.

We have two ztr's. First one is 52" with 20 hp Kohler engine. Our lawn is about 2 1/2 acres to mow. I can cut it with this mower in 3/4 the time it takes with the Kubota and the 72" deck. Yes we have some trees but not many and with the ztr mower needs little trimming. Have never used a mid mount mower so no idea how it would compare. ZTR is dusty but not bad.
Now the second ZTR is Ferris commercial 61" deck with 37 hp Kawasaki. I can come off that mower very dusty. The grass clippings will even blow back on me when turning if you turn wrong with any breeze. But cuts light greased lighten. As to smooth lawn, that mower is full suspension with springs and shocks and I run it wide open and yes we have some old stumps holes that need filling now. It will our cut the tractor and 6' mower by a good bit. Have used to mower bermuda hay field beside the Kubota B2710 and rear finishing mower and it just runs by it. Now hp is about 40 or so percent larger. Uses gas much heavier than the tractor does diesel. Great ride. Like being in recliner.
Where the ztr has advantage is speed in mowing, trimming near trees or plants or anything compared to tractor and mower deck I think. Also it is always set up to MOW. The Bushog ZTR is very easy to mount and dismount. Disadvantages, the Ferris is easy to mount but the seat does slightly recline and it can be hard to get up out of seat if say rear wheels are bogged down. ZTR is not good on wet slopes, due to the rear wheels being both the steering and the traction. Will bog down quicker than you can stop the mower. Not design to run down the road with, I trailer to my mother in laws about 1/2 mile away. With
Tractor and mower, again no experience with mid mount so referencing rear finish mower. Better for running to your in-laws that distance. No idea on changing blades how easy it would be compared to ztr, my guess about the same. You have a multi use machine.
I for certain would want hydro trans on the tractor and of course the ztr use hydro drive.
Might need to consider insurance and storage.
I am 66, good health. I prefer the ztr for mowing greatly even though use the tractor and finishing mower and rough cut mower a good bit. I would want a cab but that it personal choice and also depends on your trees and such.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #22  
I agree that a purpose built mower will usually out mow a tractor, but for some reason, i mow a 10 acre field 4 times a year that was offered to the guy who does the area around the buildings. It has some very thick areas that bog a mower down alot. (Horse manure area?)My M7040 just powers thru. I can use my loader to pick up the deck to get to the blades to sharpen them. Never seen a zero turn pull a plow or set of disc either.
David from jax
 
   / A Fork In The Road #23  
I agree that a purpose built mower will usually out mow a tractor, but for some reason, i mow a 10 acre field 4 times a year that was offered to the guy who does the area around the buildings. It has some very thick areas that bog a mower down alot. (Horse manure area?)My M7040 just powers thru. I can use my loader to pick up the deck to get to the blades to sharpen them. Never seen a zero turn pull a plow or set of disc either.
David from jax

4 times a year cutting isn’t lawnmower territory. Any tractor that would be a half way decent lawnmower isn’t going to be much use pulling a plow or disk either.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #24  
It would run a tiller.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #25  
Is that 5 acres field or lawn type grass. I do agree if it is field and fairly bumpy a ZTR will be a pain. For that I would get a rotary cutter for the Mahindra.
 
   / A Fork In The Road
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#26  
Thank for all of the replies. Certainly a lot to mull over.

I've considered a ZT mower and haven't completely ruled them out. Wonder about the longevity, though. My current mower is 34 years old, so I've gotten spoiled about only crying once. :) And while they're very good at what they do, they are a one-trick pony. And I think I'd miss that FEL. Right now at my place, I mow the two acre yard with the Kubota and mow my four acre field with a five foot brush hog on the Mahindra. I use a five footer because I can use it on my twenty acres of woods to keep the brush down and cut my shooting lanes, etc. The Mahindra also gets used for my garden, which is around 1/3 to a 1/2 acre. And I use it to occasionally pull a log, so it will stay around. Just getting harder to get up on it.

If I pick up my in-law's place (and five acres is a conservative estimate for grass cutting), that'll put me at 7 acres every ten days in the summer. If I add my field in (it's flat down here), we're up to eleven acres.

I was thinking SCUT, because of the versatility. And an old man's back.

Something I didn't know, was that Big B was a distributor for LS. My closes LS dealer is about 25 miles away, but Big B is only about 35 miles away. Wonder if a distributor would have a better price? Also wonder if they are a parts distributor?

Right now, I'm still leaning SCUT. I may benchmark a Kubota and compare everything against it, as I've had many years of service with the one I have. What HP do y'all think would be best? I'd like to stay away from as much Tier 4 foo-foo as I can.

Lastly, thanks again for all the opinions. It certainly helps to here what other folks think... :)
 
   / A Fork In The Road #27  
I have a 21hp New Holland with a 60" Mid Mount Mower It spins it fine, but I think you might as well go 25hp. It is amazing how useful the loader is. I still think you would be happier with the smallest CUT (Kubota B and John Deere 2 series) than a SCUT (Kubota BX or John Deere 1 series). You should at least try them out.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #28  
Thank for all of the replies. Certainly a lot to mull over.

I've considered a ZT mower and haven't completely ruled them out. Wonder about the longevity, though. My current mower is 34 years old, so I've gotten spoiled about only crying once. :) And while they're very good at what they do, they are a one-trick pony. And I think I'd miss that FEL. Right now at my place, I mow the two acre yard with the Kubota and mow my four acre field with a five foot brush hog on the Mahindra. I use a five footer because I can use it on my twenty acres of woods to keep the brush down and cut my shooting lanes, etc. The Mahindra also gets used for my garden, which is around 1/3 to a 1/2 acre. And I use it to occasionally pull a log, so it will stay around. Just getting harder to get up on it.

If I pick up my in-law's place (and five acres is a conservative estimate for grass cutting), that'll put me at 7 acres every ten days in the summer. If I add my field in (it's flat down here), we're up to eleven acres.

I was thinking SCUT, because of the versatility. And an old man's back.

Something I didn't know, was that Big B was a distributor for LS. My closes LS dealer is about 25 miles away, but Big B is only about 35 miles away. Wonder if a distributor would have a better price? Also wonder if they are a parts distributor?

Right now, I'm still leaning SCUT. I may benchmark a Kubota and compare everything against it, as I've had many years of service with the one I have. What HP do y'all think would be best? I'd like to stay away from as much Tier 4 foo-foo as I can.

Lastly, thanks again for all the opinions. It certainly helps to here what other folks think... :)

They make some crappy ZTRs but the high end ones will last a lifetime.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #29  
They make some crappy ZTRs but the high end ones will last a lifetime.

Yes, it is just a matter of money. The commercial machines are expensive, but they are made to run all day, every day for years.
 
   / A Fork In The Road #30  
I've a cabelas branded Tym, 25hp. Belly mower. Is
very comparable to the mahindra scuts in that size. (tym was making some of them a year or so ago). I mow roughly 3 acres, about 7 ti 10 days in the summer. 5ft belly works fine. If I let the grass get up to 6 inches, ( one 2 acre side that was pasture) I run in low. on my flat areas, high is moving as fast as a ztr. and my 2 acre pasture is full of holes from tree stumps that haven't been filled so areas are slow going.

I LOVE having both an end loader and a 3pt hitch. And it is way more versatile than just a mower, so a ztr was really never even thought of when ai bought it.

it is a pain removing the deck when I want to use tiller, but at 61, I can still do it easily. JD does have good set up on their machine.

get a scut, forget the ztr
 

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