A good neighbor-Opions Please

[Moon]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Isn't this a part of why many of us move to outlying areas? )</font>

Yes, thats true ...but it doesn't always work. We have one neighbor with 20 acres who will not house their dogs. They now have two, they let both run loose all the time. There is a busy road close by, and many dogs have been hit on it, but they let them loose anyway. We are far enough away that it is a minor annoyance, but one other neighbor has been fueding with them over this issue for years.

Moon

 

[getut]

Old school is right LMTC, but Old school works both ways.

I see it completely differently. Let me first say that I do keep my dog in my yard with an underground fence, but I wish it were like the old days and I didn't have to.

The other side to your story: As long as a neighbors dog isn't destroying buildings, chewing up your hosepipe, or being aggressive to a persons family what does it matter? Is pooing in a yard a big deal? What about birds and deer?

Where you talk about other people having the ME..MY RIGHTS attitude, I see the same thing when someone is so retentive that they get bent went a persons dog roams around.

Don't get me wrong either. Everything has limits. If a neighbors dog had a habit of "holding it" for hours just so that he can drop his load right in front of my deck steps... and that is the only place he does it, then its different.

If it is a nice dog, feed him, let the kids play with him. Consider him a friend that you don't have to buy shots for. Just don't be so retentive about your property or yard. That attitude is definitely imported from the housing developments (they may be located in a rural area but are NOT rural. Actually are far from it). Rural areas in the old days never used to be like that. Ole Fido knew everyone and got a pat on the head from everyone he knew.

PS. I agree whole-heartedly about the sassing part. Oh the trouble that I would have been in as a kid if the "consequences" were as lax as they are today. My hiney and a hickory stick reluctantly knew each other very well.

 

[bczoom]

Something that I've seen work to keep dogs out. Tell the neighbors that you intend on getting a dog. A BIG ONE. The containment system for the dog will be an invisible fence but the dog will be trained for protection. Then ask them if they can start working on keeping their dog out for its own protection as you can not be liable if your dog eats their dog. Feel free to procrastinate indefinitely on getting your BIG DOG.

My neighbor has (at least) 4 dogs. They're all some kind of expensive bird dogs that he normally keeps in pens. When they're out, they are very high strung and running everywhere.

The following is going to make it sound like I'm mean but I just don't like the dogs. They're not companion or friendly dogs.

When they come to my place, they normally head straight for my 3 year old son. If I can get there in time, I intercept before they knock him over (then they run elsewhere so it's not like they want to really play with him). My interception normally entails the utilization of a Timberland boot. I am not shy nor try to hide my actions from the owners (who normally see me do it). They fully understand and do what they can to stop the dog from crossing.

 

[riptides]

All I can say is property rights end at the property line.
The dogs belong on their owners property, I don't care about anything else.

Does your area have leash laws? Roaming laws?

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[getut]

It isn't a property rights issue. Absent agressiveness or damage, its just hypocritical when a person gets bent over a dog but not other types of animals.

It just becomes a "control" issue. I didn't give it permission to be here so it can't be here. Its not hurting anything, but if it is then more power to ya.. sink that boot deeply.

 

[slowrev]

I have the same problem-nice people-lousey dogs! Or is
it nice dogs-lousey people?
Good Luck with solution. If there is one.
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Yes it is the owners, and if they don't keep their dogs in line their kids will probably be troublemakers as well. Not always but usually.
Ben

 

[Varmintmist]

Ask the guy if you can borrow his shovel for a hour. Load it and bring it back. Smile the whole time, and dont make a fuss.

 

[riptides]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It isn't a property rights issue. Absent agressiveness or damage, its just hypocritical when a person gets bent over a dog but not other types of animals. )</font>

I respectfully disagree.

The dog is another persons property.
The dog has infringed on property not owned by his/her owner.
The infringed upon considers it an annoyance.

I would not equate a dog in this instance to another animal type.

What happens if rover ingests something and dies on the neighbooring lot. The owners kids see it. What is the reaction then?

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Freds]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ( It isn't a property rights issue. Absent agressiveness or damage, its just hypocritical when a person gets bent over a dog but not other types of animals. )

I respectfully disagree.
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Same here. No slam intended, but do you really equate dog feces near your house with deer turds in your field?
I don't recall ever tracking deer turds into the house /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

My three have a fenced in area behind my house for their "stuff". The yard on either side of my house is for playing with them without worry of tracking something into the house when I'm done. If they use it, it gets picked up immediately.
Why should it be OK for my rural neighbors to treat my yard differently than I do /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I don't see any hypocracy in this at all.

 

[getut]

Why is it an annoyance though? Just because of a "control" thing and the owner didn't give it permission?

Rhetorical question (with answer built in): If the dog isn't hurting anything, then what is it hurting? Why not make friends with the dog and be his buddy when he chooses to visit.

In TRULY rural areas, its not uncommon to have 5-6 dogs that aren't really owned by anyone and choose a different farm to visit each day. Each family would help each dog if something happened. Heck ask around with the neighbors and if not already done, pick up the vaccinations at tractor supply for $5.

People just did not USED to be that "retentive" about their property. If everyone was that way, then movies like Benji would never have came about because no one would have ever heard of or imagined a dog that showed up at the butchers and got some scrap. Everybody would automatically assume that any dog that wandered was shot and buried because somebody that "likes dogs in general" shot the dog just because it wasn't their own and was "infringing" on their property.

Bad dogs are bad... take them to the pound or if necessary shoot them if they are a threat or are damaging things.
Good dogs are good... they are not bad just because of their location.

If it irks you because someone elses dog is on your property and the dog isn't hurting anything and you have no reason to not want it there other than "because it is someone elses", then it seems you are the "control freak" type of personality. (Not speaking to anyone in particular with that last statement).