A Natural Spring?

[EdKing]

What I meant by opinion, is your opinion that if science can't prove something, then it can't exist. I am a firm believer in evolution, and the scientific process. I am also a believer in the opinion that there are things out there that science can't prove, but they do exist.

 

[DVerbarg]

Ed,

You said it so well and so short <font color=blue>if science can't prove something, then it can't exist....there are things out there that science can't prove, but they do exist.</font color=blue>

 

[TresCrows]

Ed, I have no dissagreement with your statement. Some things are beyond science and the scientific method of investigation. However, water witching really is not one of them because it has been investigated and shown to be of no value. Some things in life we have to make a leap of faith. I think what infuriates so many people with science is that it does not prove to them what they want to believe and then other things it does not even seek to render a conclusion, to seek to prove a point would be poor method because already bias has entered the equation. I doubt that science will ever prove factually a justification for my belief based on faith in God, yet I do not question his existence. Anyone who tries to take the Bible or the Koran or any other of our holy books and then tries to conduct scientific experiments, for example, to prove them out is in for an infuriating and exasparating time--not from me but from themselves ultimately. Bowing out of this one before y'all all drop me and my crows down a well. J

 

[Slamfire]

The local "legend" marked two underground streams on my place one running at right angles to the other. He said there was water at 25 feet, 68 feet, 121 feet and 157 feet. We marked the intersection of the two streams with a stake, and I made sure the well driller's drill was centered on it. There was water at 25 feet which marked the top of the rock underlying the soil. When the well reached 300 feet without any more water, I had them blow the hole down and measure the height the water reached, that was 80 feet. I can pump water for 45 minutes before the well runs dry. So much for dowsers, or at least the one I got. The well driller said there was a reason they don't charge, that way there is no recourse when they are wrong.

 

[mtd]

Heres my problem, I don't need a dowser since I have the water coming up out of the ground, it makes a puddle about 4' by 5' and runs back down in the ground, its not standing, it is flowing. What is the best way to contain this water and use it (watering the horses, irrigation etc.). It is in the pasture with my 4 horses about 400 ft from the House. House has city water so I don't need it for that.

 

[MarkV]

Sounds like a great place to dig a pond.

MarkV

 

[EdKing]

Put in a cistern to hold the water. Start where the water is comming out of the ground and dig a trench back, following the flow of the water, about 10 feet. Put in black perforated pipe with a screen cap on the end in this trench. Put a tank (concrete or plastic work well, you can even build one out of brick, just make sure you seal it well, use as large a tank as you would like to have reserve water) in at the down hill end of the black pipe, you will need to dig a hole large enough for the tank. Connect the black pipe with the tank, as near the top as posible, put another pipe coming out the top of the tank for overflow. Put your out flow pipe about 4 to 6 inches from the bottom, use 1 inch ABS, once again with a screen cap, and run this line to where you want to access the water. You want to bury the outflow about 6 to 12 inches below the frost line. If you are using a plastic tank, let it fill with water, then backfill the entire setup, including the perforated pipe. Mark where the access hole is on top of the tank, so you can find it to periodically clean the sediment from the bottom of the tank. Set up properly, this type of setup will last as long as the water continues to flow from the ground in that area.

 

[rrw1238]

Things change as science learns more. An example is a electric device that medicine shows have been touting since at least the early 1900s. It emits a small electrical shock and helps stop pain. Drs were loosing thier licenses for recommending it as little as 20 years ago. Now the big name medical devices manufactures have started selling them for $1000s. They are ok now as long as they are manufactured by the big companies. My wife was given one a couple of years ago by our HMO. another was a electromagnetic device to treat pain and help bones heal after a fracture. I recently heard that Jery Lewis has one implanted in his back for pain.
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