About this pedal thang

[jeff9366]

I am only knowledgable about Kubota tractors but I believe following true for most tractor brands:

Hydraulic shuttle shift transmissions are not available on subcompact nor compact tractors.

Hydraulic shuttle shift transmissions are first offered on utility class tractors, which commence at 5,000 pounds bare tractor weight.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I'm likely going to be buying an L2501, 3301, or 3901.
Never owned a Kubota.
Never operated a "tractor" with a Hydro tranny.
I have a JD lawn tractor with Hydro.

I understand that after a bit of time most seem pleased with the Kubota bi-sexual pedal treddle thang. But, it sure feels clumsy to me by just resting my foot on it.
I've yet to operate one, so my concerns about the comfort and user friendly part of it may be for naught.

I'm curious how many folks buy the Kubota HST because it "just seems like the thing to do".
Are there any of y'all that a dead set on using a geared tranny?

Another thing that I don't care for on the models I'm looking at, is the brake pedals are on the same side as the pedal thang.
On other tractors I've operated, they were all geared trannys and I used the heck out of one wheel braking. That's not possible with these.
Anyone else miss that feature?

I would like to like the HST but wondering if a geared unit would be a better fit for me.

Most of my use initially will be using a brush hog in tight quarters to cut/chop and maintain underbrush. (9 acres heavily wooded)
Moving the brush to burn piles.
And maintaining 600' of driveway, til I die.

I remember the days of using a box blade and the geared tranny. That was a workout at times.

All opinions appreciated. thank you

Undecided and still kickin tires

I hate HST... I went with the L3301 geared, shuttle shift on the fender, same as my MX5100. This set up is fantastic. Don't let anyone tell you hst is better or quicker... not true. I just sold my little B2320 because it was hst, and after two years of it, I had had enough. Go geared...

 

[MossRoad]

I hate HST... I went with the L3301 geared, shuttle shift on the fender, same as my MX5100. This set up is fantastic. Don't let anyone tell you hst is better or quicker... not true. I just sold my little B2320 because it was hst, and after two years of it, I had had enough. Go geared...

How about some details as to why for the OP to ponder.

 

[atitus74]

I was going to ask same thing.

 

[Corkpuller]

How about some details as to why for the OP to ponder.

:thumbsup:

 

[Corkpuller]

While I agree that the split brakes are useless on these models unless you have cruise control, they actually don't need them. I used the split brakes on my 770 a lot, but the 2501 seems to turn better. With a 5ft mower on the back, I think you'll be able to get to everything you need to.

I do like to use the split brakes as a "locker" though, and apply power to the rear wheel of my choice. Hard to do on this machine.

If you need a lot of PTO power, the higher power model (3901) may be a better choice. I've had mine bog in heavy growth with both the 6ft finish mower and 5ft bush hog on and had to slow down to clear it out.

Please explain how this Cruise Control operates.
Any CC I've ever had on anything.....touching the brake disengages the CC.

Brush hog size is another question. To me, a 2501 or 3301 will not have the balls to run a 5' rotary. ???
I don't think I'll be using this machine for a lot of grass mowing. Certainly not pasture type mowing.
I will likely buy a second hand heavy duty 4' rotary that I can abuse. I figure 4' would get me a little tighter but the tractor width would eliminate some of that. If these 25 hp models will swing a 5' rotary with authority then maybe I should go with that. ???
I can see a LOT of backing up to underbrush and Youpon, lowering the boom and shredding the chit outta that stuff.

Also will need to keep about 2 acres beat down after it's cleared. For about 3 yrs until a house takes up some of that space.

 

[MossRoad]

 

[MossRoad]

Please explain how this Cruise Control operates.
Any CC I've ever had on anything.....touching the brake disengages the CC.

Brush hog size is another question. To me, a 2501 or 3301 will not have the balls to run a 5' rotary. ???
I don't think I'll be using this machine for a lot of grass mowing. Certainly not pasture type mowing.
I will likely buy a second hand heavy duty 4' rotary that I can abuse. I figure 4' would get me a little tighter but the tractor width would eliminate some of that. If these 25 hp models will swing a 5' rotary with authority then maybe I should go with that. ???
I can see a LOT of backing up to underbrush and Youpon, lowering the boom and shredding the chit outta that stuff.

Also will need to keep about 2 acres beat down after it's cleared. For about 3 yrs until a house takes up some of that space.

You're neck is gonna be sore backing into that stuff all day.

Also, I'd want a brush cutter that's at least was as wide if not wider than my wheels side-to-side.

 

[RjCorazza]

I’m in the hst camp. My first 2 tractors were geared, non-live pto. Non-live pto is a royal pain for my rear mower use, and combined with a geared transmission made backing up to my stream bank for mowing horrible (and unnecessarily dangerous).

My past 2 hst machines with live pto are much easier to use for my purposes. I could never go back to a geared tractor. My current L4060 hst has some very nice control features that make operation highly customizable.

As far as brakes, I don’t know all of Kubota’s lineup, but most current models seem to have split brakes on the left, hst on the right. My previous L3410 did not... clutch on left, split brakes and hst on the right. That said, I rarely use the split brakes even with them being well placed.

 

[bunyip]

i have never used the brake, just foot off hst quick.ly is enough to almost launch you over the steering wheel.
We are looking at a bigger proprty that is half scrub and I will look at hst again, much less fatigue on the operator.