Adding Second Rear Remote

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It sounds as though you are headed in a different direction...at least for now.
but wanted to say that we I did get around to installing the 2nd and 3rd remote on my TC48 recently I was extremely glad I had put in an overhead hoist ($70 chain hoist on I beam) earlier. It made the tire moving a non-issue.
 

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gregkabob said:
MadDogDriver, I looked around for a diverter valve and couldn't find one. Do you have a link to it? I really want to see what it will cost me to do it. I need to look at the tractor to see how much room there is at the existing rear remote as I'm think (oh no, now it getting dangerous) that it would be neat to splice the divert valve in at the rear since I already have lines running to it for the graple and the top-n-tilt. If I could do it for under 400 I'd go that route. I've emailed a couple of places for quotes on the second rear remote but no responce yet. I've been to the sites that let you look it up but the second one doesn't come up with a price. The third does and it's around 425.

Thanks for the help and enchouragement.

Greg
This is the diverter valve I was considering, $219.50 at Surplus Center Item Detail. Surplus Center also has all the other items you'd need for the diverter valve project if you couldn't find them locally.

This valve would be used to divert the FEL's curl/uncurl circuitry and looks identical to the one I saw from NH, but for a whole lot less $$. Did you have a chance to look at that previous thread I was referring you to? If not, then take a few minutes to digest it and the links within it, http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/100961-3rd-function-diverter-valve-location.html. You will see that PineRidge connected his diverter valve to the curl/uncurl lines out of the FEL controller and located his valve on the FEL mount frame, but I really liked the NH design that also connected the diverter valve to the curl/uncurl lines on the loader itself thereby allowing the diverter valve to be mounted on the FEL crossframe instead of on the tractor.

Since you already have everything plumbed from your first rear remote to the FEL I suppose you could use the diverter valve as an electronic 3rd function valve plumbed at the rear remote. One problem with that idea is where would you locate the diverter valve. I'm not sure you have enough room behind the tractor for the diverter valve though, especially if you want to leave room for future installation of 2nd & 3rd rear remotes.

Using the FEL: The diverter valve would be plumbed with the FEL curl/uncurl lines into the valve and one of the two set of outputs to the FEL curl/uncurl cylinders and the other set of outputs to the grapple (or whatever you are hooking up). You could place the diverter selector button in the joystick like PineRidge did or use some other placement on the joystick (like a trigger for example).

Using the rear remote: Input into the diverter valve comes from the lines going to your rear remote QDs. One output to the rear remote QDs and the other output to your grapple lines that would've connected to the rear remote. You could use a normal on/off style switch with this setup since you wouldn't be using the top n tilt and the grapple simultaneously like you might with the bucket curl/uncurl and the grapple.

NH's kits for the second (and third) rear remotes come with everything you need to mount the remote and QDs. They have laid out a plan for locating the 2nd & 3rd remotes without interferring with each other, but there's not a whole lot of room for anything else.

I use Messick's, Tractor Parts for Kubota, New Holland, Case, and more..., to get a gut check on NH parts prices and order online from them if my dealer is busy. Normally though, I just go locally with my NH dealer since he's always been straight up with me.

EDIT: OBTW, I just checked and Messick's has your 2nd rear remote kit for $328.20, part #718334026, for the TC45DA.

Hmmm :confused: .........Decisions Decisions :D
 
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MadDogDriver, Thanks for the Info and yes I looked at the threads you posted on the diverter valve. I tried looking up the 2nd remote on Messicks sight and it wouldn't give me a price. It gave me one for the first and third but not the second. Thanks for getting it. I'm going to call them and order it as I was prepared to spend around 300 but not 500. If my local guy would have given me a price like that I would have purchased it from him.

SkogenMe: Thanks for the picks. My buddy had a big engine hoist the I could use to help with the tire.

I'm off to place an order.

I'll keep you informed on how it goes.

Greg
 
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OK, second rear remote on order. Thanks MadDogDriver for the help with the part.

Greg
 
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No problem Greg :D .

TBN is such a great resource for us isn't it? I'm so indebted to all the posters for improving my understanding of so many subjects and our ability to have fun and use our tractors the way we want. It's really nice to look at pictorals like PineRidge and others have done, when attempting something yourself for the first time.

Now you get to quit dreaming and get your finger nails a little dirty ;) . Have fun and let us know how it came out.
 
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I'll post pics of the install when I get to it. I would expect the parts next week and will install on the weekend. I really want to go back to the dealer and let him know that I got it $172 less than what he wanted. But I won't. If the next time I'm in and he asks I'll tell him. What burned me was when I was trying to disuss the pricing and said that I read on the internet that the first was the most expensive the second and third where less he started the "You can't believe what you get off the net". I've been on the net since it started and yes there is a lot of mis-information posted but on sites like this you can glean out what's right and wrong.

When I had my Honda GoldWing (sold if to buy the tractor, at least they where both blue) I went to the Honda shop to ask about an upcoming recall. The service guy said the same thing abou the net and sure enough a week later they called be about the recall and I was the first one done.

I agree this is one nice site and everyone is more than helpful. One thing that isn't on this site is the bickering and fighting that goes on at some other forums I visit.

Thanks again for all the help and pics will follow.

Greg
 
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Hey Greg you got a great deal from Messick's!!

Out of curiousity, I just asked my dealer what a 2nd rear remote would cost and he quoted me basically the same as your dealer, $517. It's the same part # for TC35/40/45 series tractors and he also said that it's the same price whether it's the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rear remote. Just a few years ago you could get all 3 together for about $500. WOW! He also said that's the NH price regardless of whether you live on the Right coast or Left coast.

Hmmmm........How does Messick's sell for so much less?? Don't really care, but glad they do. My dealer said go for it, cause his cost price is way above Messick's retail price. They must buy in great quantity and pass it on to us. I checked about the 3rd remote and it's price was $425.18, like you saw. So that makes me think that they just pass on their cost when they got it plus mark up.

Wish I had a need for a second rear remote cause I'd jump on it too, but if I got one anyways I'd be like some that buy things just because it's a good deal.

Bottom line: Your dealer wasn't trying to hose you.
 
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Hey Greg, I had been watching your progress with interest as I was thinking of adding a second remote on my TC40. With Messicks price and your upcoming photos, looks like I'll need to break out the wrenches.:D :D
 
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podagrower: Looks like the prices on these are going up and Messicks has THE price on it as MadDogDrivers dealer quoted the same price as mine did. As soon as I get it in I'll let everyone know and I will be sure to take pics as I go along on the install. I hope to install it the weekend after this one. I'll keep you posted....


Greg
 
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I just received an email from Messicks apologizing for an error in the pricing on the second rear remote. The actual price is $513 and they wanted to know if I still wanted it. I said no that I didn't at this time. For me the second is more for convenience than a necessity. I understand that errors happen and that's ok. I looks like the prices are all around the 500 mark. I'm going to go back to investigating the diverter valve.

Thanks guys for all the help.

Greg
 

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