Ads say "Mows up to x Acres"

   / Ads say "Mows up to x Acres" #31  
Skidoo,

You are correct. John Deere is not saying that a customer would implode if he or she bought a four acre machine for an up to seven acre lawn, just that such a machine would likely offer a shorter service life (in years) than their target lifespan. They have done massive market research and they know their customers quite well. It is totally initiated by marketing. Then, they design the equipment to offer a service life to match what their marketing recommends. It makes sense when you think about it. If you have a 1/4 acre lawn and buy a 749 with a 62" deck, you could mow your lawn in about eight minutes, give or take. The design life of a 749 is between 3000-4000 hours, with good maintenence. This in essence means that if you mowed weekly for forty weeks out of the year, you would put between six and seven hours per year on your machine (actually more of course because the machine would be running some when not actually mowing). At this rate the X749 would last theoretically 300-400 years. This, of course, would be excessive. Conversely if you have an L100, which has a service predicted life of 500-800 hours on average, and you owned and mowed seven acres which you mowed weekly, you could expect--at best--to put 320 hours per year mowing on your machine. Given the design service life, you would need to buy another in about two years--not good. But for the person in situation one--or even say someone who mows one acre and puts forty-fifty hours yearly on his/her machine, this would equal a service life on 10+ years, which is a satisfactory target for most companies. This is how they do it. They let their market research drive their design, then they counter by designing machines and MARKETING them to those that fit into the molds for each. By printing this in their pamphlets, they also offer the power of suggestion steering people to the "appropriate" machine (or one higher than appropriate) and making things easier for the dealer.

John M
 
   / Ads say "Mows up to x Acres" #32  
skidoo said:
When manufacturers advertise a model as "Mows up to x Acres", does anyone know on what criteria that is based? Is it based on a standard time to operate per day, or is it the estimate for how many hours would be expected for the x acres before warranty runs out, or some other standard?


I have read the ads you are referring to. I think that the "x" acres figure is a rough guide to help you select the proper size tractor for your land, taking into consideration all the other chores you will probably want to do with it. The other consideration, perhaps, is the smoothness of your property. It would be unusual, for example, to find a five acre "lawn" that was as smooth as one that was 1/2 acre. Some riders are much more robust than others, and stand up to both the additional chores, and rougher land much better. I have something over three acres to mow, but it is closer to converted pasture land than to "lawn". I had to replace steering, and front end components in a large Craftsman rider in one year's time, while riders that were built much stronger have lasted a number of years ( I had 1500 hours on my last Simplicity with one steering component replacement). Comfort is also a consideration, and larger tractors are generally more comfortable. In most cases, not only the rider, but also the mower deck, and other attachments get more robust as one moves up in rider model size, and price.
 
   / Ads say "Mows up to x Acres" #33  
I have to agree with those that say that this is just a guide to help you select a model you will be happy with based on the amount of property that you own and has nothing to do with the time it will take to get the job done.

As far as acre per hour ratings go, I am a Dixie Chopper dealer and they rate the acres per hour based on 80% operator accuracy and mowing conditions. There has to be some way to rate it and they seem to be more honest than most. I know there are some companies that will take the machines top speed down hill on fresh pavement with the blades not running and do the math from there!

If acres per hour is a big part of your purchase decision and your yard is one that can use a zero turn, there is no faster way to mow grass!
 
   / Ads say "Mows up to x Acres" #34  
Montana,

What do you think of Dixie Choppers? I have been considering them for my business. How's the reliability? I've seen them in use and they are mowing monsters, I couldn't believe how fast they'll cut till I saw it with my own eyes.
 
   / Ads say "Mows up to x Acres" #35  
JiminGa said:
Montana,

What do you think of Dixie Choppers? I have been considering them for my business. How's the reliability? I've seen them in use and they are mowing monsters, I couldn't believe how fast they'll cut till I saw it with my own eyes.

Well for starters, I am a dealer so this might be thought of as biased. I also had about 50 options of what zero turn to sell and chose Dixie Chopper. Yes, they mow very fast but the construction is what sold me on them. They are starting to make some creature comfort changes because the public is demanding it, but their construction is still pretty basic and bullet proof. Anything from the Coatesville Classic and above has a six rail frame with a lifetime warranty. The steering casters use Timkin tapered roller bearings and both the casters and bearings carry a lifetime warranty. The also use four bearings in each front wheel so they will go a long long time if greased properly. The drive system is a quad loop design that is not seen on many hydraulic drive systems under 100HP. Both pumps are driven from a gear box so there is no side load on the input shafts, the system also by-passes any fluid not being used and sends it back through the cooler and then to the 10 quart tank, which I think is the largest in the industry. This machine is rated to tow 2,000lbs and Dixie also sells snow blades for them so it is not just a grass cutting machine, it can be used year round.

As far as the company goes, they are very fair with their dealers and they provide me one demo priced unit for every 6 units I order so I always have a back-up mower to allow my commercial customers to use if they have a repair needed that will take a couple of days. I have yet to have to lend it to a customer while their unit was down, but it's there if needed. Dixie is only two states away from me so I get parts in two days ground or next day if needed. They are also very smart about having different models share the same parts. Every mower they have built since day one uses the same blade spindles so a dealer can stock three and be able to fix any mower ever sold.

As always, the dealer will make or break your happiness. If your local dealer is a good one that provides good service, you should like the machine. I always make a demo available to help a customer decide how they should spend their money so you should be able to use one for a few hours and see how you like it. I also do after hours service for commercial customers with no extra charges so they can get the machine serviced without missing cutting time. Most don't anuse this and will wait for a rain out day if they can.

Sorry if this sounded too much like an advertisement, but you asked my opinion!

Ken
 

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