Advice on project

[RobS]

Hey, I like the rented dump trailer option. Get's his financial interest plus it will be waaaaay easier than unloading a pickup or trying to haul all the stuff in your tractor bucket. The material is sitting there at no charge right now, right? Surely then he could cough up some money for a dump trailer. Beyond that I see nothing but wear and tear on your tractor with no sweat off his back /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[fractal]

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Me too.

 

[jsduke]

My half-ton is a Ranger w/ high gear rear and 5 speed. One ton tow capacity. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

His truck is a brand new Dakota V-6 sans hitch. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

It would be best to order in the right stuff and have it dumped at his site. I guess I could still place/grade it.

Thanks.

duke.

P.S. Gravel around here runs approx 7 -10 a ton. Minimum 17 ton (tandem), 22 ton (tri-ax).

 

[TC18guy]

i thought i'd offer my 2 cents....

I once rented a dump trailer, it cost me about $150 for the day. I worked 3/4 of a day. The trailer was way to heavy for my 1/2 ton F150 plus I had to make 2 extra trips to transport the tractor back & forth. A far better use of my time & money would have been to have a load brought in.

How big is the barn you are working in. You've got a pretty big tractor. By the time you start dumping some material inside, you will have an uneven grade to work on and no room to maneuver. It seems to me it will end up being a lot of hand work.

I'd consider renting a hand compactor from a local rental store before filling with concrete.

 

[carluman]

I suppose rock is different prices around the states but here in SE Iowa it is around $150 for tandem axle truck load (don't remember the tonnage).

As for using the rock it is a BIG mistake. Use some fill sand and the future of the floor will be much better. Ask any respectable contractor.

 

[BotaGuy]

1. I always see sand in pole sheds before they pour the floor.

2. Your tractor is designed to handle rock better than your Ranger.

 

[polecat]

In most cases and how good u are unless you have a 5 point levellling blade you are going to have to do some hand levelling..compacted material is much better to put your forms but hey its a pole barn...i would put your forms in(plywood whatever ) on the three wall sides and then put in whatever u have to use to keep within the budget...get him to have the levelling material dropped off..i have a 6' bucket on my iseki tl3201 and believe me u are going ot make a bunch of trips!!!! if he doesnt have the$$ for the fill take a few trips back and forth with your counter weight on and put all the stuff in the front of the pbarn and then when the front of the pbarn is evenly filled with one load a piece per section lower yer rops and push it in keeping yer !!!!!FEL LOW WHEN FULL OF WEIGHT!!!....then gogit another set of loads..I know how u feel bout helpin out others but you have to weigh how much he has helped u!!!..i have one friend that locally uses my iseki anytime he wants but we have an agreement!!! he knows that it costs $150-200 a day to rent acut like mine but it always comes back full of diesel and if he breaks something he pays for it and if i need help on ANYTHING he comes a runnin...it's very nice having an extra hand for big jobs and right now he owes me bout 2 full days of labor and $100.oo for a ram he blew last week and he gits paid this week and i know he''l b here this wknd wihth $$ and to help me on a fencin and retaining wall/ project... once this dadgumn rain stops ...(4 days straight...and oh yeah.....iv'e seen many a pbarn cement floor set on jist uncompacted stone but the kicker and ???'s you guys have to ask yourselves is will their be any washing out of the dirt that supports the gravel floor??? and what is yer frost line???once done leveling...put up yer front form for the concrete and pjut a little more gravel in to level up the void in the frront...if u dont put yer side and back forms in first you are going to havea hell of a time gittin em in..lotsa hand diggin
GOOD LUCK
TODD /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Buzz_Sawyer]

JUNKMAN
Lets see from CT turm west and head for anytown usa then head down main street and its cady corner from the post office there
(S/W Illinois)

 

[polecat]

Zion???? walkeegan ???cmon dude he's not askin 4 yer street address jist a hint as 2 where ....idunno is ??? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Phred]

Well you may be able to rent a dump truck. Some places have small single axel dump trucks for rent. You may need a CDL if you are planning to travel on roads.

Another option is to use your tractor to haul the dump trailer.

I have moved a huge amount of lime and gravel with my tractor and dump trailer / or a rented lime buggy.
You can use the tractor to load the trailer and then put a 2" or 2 5/16" ball on the tow bar and pull the trailer.

But I think your problem is that your tractor is marginal for the task. I load the lime buggy without a rear ballast beacuse it takes forever to hook up the three point ballast, load trailer, unhook three point ballast, hook up trailer, repeat....
They only way I get away with this is my tractor weighs the better part of 10K lbs and I take small bits with the loader.

What ever you do, I would not drop the ROPS. Just to much potential to get hurt in order save a few bucks.

Another though:
Rent a bobcat and a dump trailer. You can use your tractor to pull the dump trailer and your buddy can load with the bobcat. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Around here you can get a bobcat for a weekend for about $125 plus delivery cost.
Just keep the loads small. Your tractor is no match for a full dump trailer of gravel.

Fred