advise please: difficult workshop build

[oldboyscout]

I think it would be too much to use the loader. I would definitely go with the buggy at least at this point. I'm not sure how much good help I can get.....

 

[oldboyscout]

concrete alone is $627. I'll get someone to come and look at it to see about pumping etc

 

[GPintheMitten]

Just a thought, you might see what it would cost to contract this out. See how the cost compares to pumping cost.

 

[jhlittle]

the drives are narrow intended for my tractor and gear, not full driveways

How narrow? I drive a pump truck which is about the same size as most concrete trucks and you'd be amazed at some of the places it will fit into.

 

[paulharvey]

How narrow? I drive a pump truck which is about the same size as most concrete trucks and you'd be amazed at some of the places it will fit into.

If you have 10 feet of clear width and 14 ft of vertical, they can get in.

If you buggy or use the loader, you might have to pay a stand bye fee; about $100/hour after the first hour. This really depends on the company, and how busy they are. Yours is a half load, and they surely don't want a truck and driver tied up for half a day.

a lot of front discharge trucks are 6x6, and can get places you won't think. Might be worth it to clear a way in, rather then pump.

 

[paulharvey]

concrete alone is $627. I'll get someone to come and look at it to see about pumping etc

Is that including small load fee, environmental fee, trip charge, ect? Some companies charge extra for anything less than 8 cy; some for less than 5 cy.

Edit: the typical 3-4" pump doesn't handle standard concrete well; you need to order "pump mix" which uses smaller rocks. Same psi, can be same slump (pumps better at 5 or 6" slump though), but costs about $2.50/yard more last I knew. It's easier to work at times because your not fighting big rocks

 

[jhlittle]

10' backing up, 9' is plenty if he can pull in. Also depends on the shoulder: is it clear? Hard enough to support the truck?

If you have 9-10'+ of useable width I'd get the ready mix company to come out and look to see if they can get back there.

 

[Gary Fowler]

For sure check with concrete company on clearances. Those trucks can go lots of places, even on soft ground, if width and height is OK.

 

[oldboyscout]

the drives are gravel over 10' geotextile, but they curve a lot so the width is 9' at best, in between the trees. There's an area that sounds like a truck could get closer, but it'll probably make a mess of it-I just leveled and planted grass there. It would still be 40' away though.

 

[/pine]

How far is the closest Ready-Mix plant? They may send a guy out to check it out if it's a slow day...

 

[oldboyscout]

I have someone coming to look at it monday, they do pumping if necessary

 

[flusher]

The pony walls for the crawl space under my house was poured using a concrete pump. Fast, efficient.



Good luck.

 

[oldboyscout]

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18x24 slab, excavate, 4000#, 5" thick, 12" perimeter with rebar, mesh in the rest, control joints, finishing and sealer: $5685.


pad alone (if I do everything up to and including form work) $4000

 

[GPintheMitten]

I would do the excavation and forms and pay for the job unless I could get a couple guys to help me. Even if I had to pay them.

Someone will come on and post that the mesh is worthless because they will walk on it and push it to the bottom. But I think you can tell them you don't want that to happen. They can pull it up with hooks on their come along as they place the concrete. If they do that you'll be ok.

 

[BuilderML]

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18x24 slab, excavate, 4000#, 5" thick, 12" perimeter with rebar, mesh in the rest, control joints, finishing and sealer: $5685.


pad alone (if I do everything up to and including form work) $4000

I just poured a 16'x24' floating pad for my father in law. Cost 3000#mix w/ fiber= $1000. #4 rebar 24"x24" Grid entire area with 2 bars around perimiter $320.
Chairs for rebar $40. 6 mil poly $45. Lumber for forming $100 (lumber will be used in construction of building). $250 for my mason to come over with his bull float and help pour. Excavator rental $350. 2 loads(16 yards each) 1 1/4" process $700. Compactor rental $35. Total $2850.
Slab was 10"x 16" along perimeter and 5" rest of area. Hope this helps.

 

[oldboyscout]

The one thing I don't know for sure is if they need to pump. The concrete guy was vague about that so I'll have to call back and check. I can't afford to have them do everything. I also don't really know people to get help with the pour.

 

[GPintheMitten]

For help, check Craigslist for workers. Also place ad for worker.

I recently got some labor help from a Craigslist ad.

 

[alchemysa]

I'm trying to build a small workshop on a "pay as I go" budget. I was going to pour a floating slab and put a metal carport/garage (TNT style)

Forgive my ignorance, but whats a TNT style garage? Around here most of the garages are metal but the slab is the last thing that goes in. The frame is put up (posts are about 2 feet into the ground) then everything is squared up before the posts are concreted in. Then the metal sheets goes on. Eventually you can poor the slab at your leisure.

 

[GPintheMitten]

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[oldboyscout]

I just heard back from them. The price does not include gravel. Apparently they were planning on pouring straight onto the dirt!.
Also, they are planning on doing it without pumping. I can't figure out how they're going to get a truck close enough.