Ag R1 tires or R4

[rademamj1]

Everyone keeps mentioning that R1 tires are better in ice and snow, but i thought I read somewhere, that R3 Turf was considered the best tire for snow and ice. Anyone have experience with tractor turf tires in winter Conditions?

 

[grsthegreat]

My old r1 sucked on ice. Just as bad as the r4s . Never run any turf tires. After ice melted in spring time, the r1 tires destroyed the driveway. The r4 do not, unless i leave chains on too long

 

[The Deerslayer]

My R1's do not do well on ice. I have a lengthy gravel driveway with a substantial incline, and I have to sand it when it ices up.

 

[ptsg]

Hi -

Let's assume you are in the market for a new 45-55 HP tractor with FEL. It will work about 30 acres tillable land and 50 acres of woods. Land is almost completely flat.

These days, it seems R4 tires are more or less standard on compact trators. What's wrong with good old-fashioned Ag R1 tires? What would be the downside? Where do the R4 tires outperform R1 tires? The tractor will not be used to mow a lawn - that's what a lawn mower is for.

Thanks!

That kinda answers your own question.

For your application, I would definitely go for R1 but even better than that, I would go for R1 radials. Better traction, will last longer, offer a better ride, better stability are just a few of the advantages. Main disadvantage being the price.

While is not common in the US to use radial tires on smaller tractors, on this side of the pond, we used them from 20 HP tractors up to the big boys.

 

[m1garand762]

I mow the yard with r1s on my kioti. Aslong as you are careful in your turns in wet grass it will be fine

 

[sodamo]

Anyone know how the new R14s match to rims/wheels? Do they fit the R1 or R4 or have their own sizing. Curious as I’d like to switch from R1s to R4s but that entails getting all new R4 rims. If I could just have R14s mounted on the current R1 rims it could be interesting.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

In my case, R4's because I do not want the tires chewing up my lawn when I need to cross it.

 

[ovrszd]

That kinda answers your own question.

For your application, I would definitely go for R1 but even better than that, I would go for R1 radials. Better traction, will last longer, offer a better ride, better stability are just a few of the advantages. Main disadvantage being the price.

While is not common in the US to use radial tires on smaller tractors, on this side of the pond, we used them from 20 HP tractors up to the big boys.

Best post yet.

 

[MadGunner]

R4 appear to be the most common choice on SCUT and CUT tractors, if you believe YouTube. My local dealer defaults customers to R1 ag tires unless you ask for R4. I guess most of his customers are working fields and soft soil, where R1 get the best traction of all the available options.

I'm pursuing a new tractor with R4 tires, as my goal is to resist punctures from mesquite thorns. Sealant helps, but avoiding punctures is my first goal.

When time comes to replace tires, I'll look at third-party options for R14 or equivalent, and probably fill with one of the foams that advertises not ruining ride quality. Likely to be a couple/few thousand dollars (depending on your tractor size) for a new set of R14 tires, rims if needed, and foam, delivered.

 

[ovrszd]

R4 appear to be the most common choice on SCUT and CUT tractors, if you believe YouTube. My local dealer defaults customers to R1 ag tires unless you ask for R4. I guess most of his customers are working fields and soft soil, where R1 get the best traction of all the available options.

I'm pursuing a new tractor with R4 tires, as my goal is to resist punctures from mesquite thorns. Sealant helps, but avoiding punctures is my first goal.

When time comes to replace tires, I'll look at third-party options for R14 or equivalent, and probably fill with one of the foams that advertises not ruining ride quality. Likely to be a couple/few thousand dollars (depending on your tractor size) for a new set of R14 tires, rims if needed, and foam, delivered.

Welcome to TBN.

If traction isn't your primary concern go with R4.

I can't testify to their increased resistance to puncture. Puncture has little to do with the carcass' ability to carry load. R4s are designed to carry load.

I'm not sure that equates better puncture resistance. If a thorn gets itself aligned to puncture a tire I'm not sure it cares whether the tire is R1 or R4. I've had flats on both.

I prefer R4 for load carrying.