I am taking delivery on a new GL 3130 FST next friday, but i spec'd it with AG tires... since lawn shredding isnt a consideration for me... I am wondering if IND are better or AG are better... I will be doing mostly FEL work and Box scraping.. maintaining horse areas that kind of thing... input MUCH appreciated... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
AG Tires Versus Industrial
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JerryG
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If you don't have much to do in slick areas the R4s would be fine. If areas like where the horses are is slick and sloppy, then the R1s are what you need. R4s are a tough and solid carcass tire, but they don't self clean anywhere to the extent the R1s do. A balled up tire doesn’t have any traction.
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It's entirely dependent on your intended uses AND your terrain and climate type. I have aggies on my L4630HST, but my property (155 acres) is generally steep forested hillside with only 7 acres clear. I had R4s on my first tractor and found they turned into slicks in mud, and even spun going uphill in my meadow after a heavy rain. Just a bit of snow and traversing anything other than level ground was hopeless, and that included the tiny incline leading to the garage where the tractor was parked. R1 aggies offer superb traction, are self-cleaning, and have proven themselves robust enough for the seriously heavy FEL and logging work I demand of my tractor.
You'll get a ton of responses on this topic, sort of like the Ford vs Chevy debate. Remember that everyone is talking about their unique requirements. Yours may differ.
Ages ago there was a fantastic review of tire types called the Ag Tire Elimination Rule, I think. The conclusion was a buyer should always plan on getting aggies unless certain conditions were met...but I forgot the conditions. Anyway, it worked well for me.
Pete
You'll get a ton of responses on this topic, sort of like the Ford vs Chevy debate. Remember that everyone is talking about their unique requirements. Yours may differ.
Ages ago there was a fantastic review of tire types called the Ag Tire Elimination Rule, I think. The conclusion was a buyer should always plan on getting aggies unless certain conditions were met...but I forgot the conditions. Anyway, it worked well for me.
Pete
well thanks for the input, I believe i will stick with the Aggies even though I am not from texas... nevada is usually dry , but when it rains it gets MUDDY!!! and i dont have sod to worry about tearing up...
Sully2
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It's entirely dependent on your intended uses AND your terrain and climate type.
Pete )</font>
I'll vote for that for sure! I bought the industrials for my 3030 because of "lawn work" and didnt want to tear up as much as I had created. And also..wet soil is a NO NO for me..Id just stay out of the yard and do "that job" another time...because Im not pushed to any real schedule.
"Serious work" requires "serious tires".
Pete )</font>
I'll vote for that for sure! I bought the industrials for my 3030 because of "lawn work" and didnt want to tear up as much as I had created. And also..wet soil is a NO NO for me..Id just stay out of the yard and do "that job" another time...because Im not pushed to any real schedule.
"Serious work" requires "serious tires".
frank_f15
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For your area i don't think it matters much, my son is in las vegas and from what i see i don't think mud is going to be much of a factor. i think for your terrain either one will work fine.
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I have had turfs, R4's and R1's on my Kubbies. On my smaller tractors I always got turf tires, but as the tractors grew so did the tread. My 3710 and my 5030 had R4's and my M9 has R1 radials. R4's wear longer than R1's, much longer especially if you drive them on pavement. R4's ride nicer than R1's, but R1's clean out better and you can specify the tread angle on R1's too. The steeper the bar angle, the more agressive the bite is.
R1's don't cut it on the lawn, they actually "cut" the lawn with hash marks. R4's will mark wet soft grass too, especially with the FWA engaged. If I wanted a good all around tire, I'd get R4's and if it got really sloppy, chain them up.
Skid loaders have had R4's forever and they tear up grassy areas like nobody's business. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I have had turfs, R4's and R1's on my Kubbies. On my smaller tractors I always got turf tires, but as the tractors grew so did the tread. My 3710 and my 5030 had R4's and my M9 has R1 radials. R4's wear longer than R1's, much longer especially if you drive them on pavement. R4's ride nicer than R1's, but R1's clean out better and you can specify the tread angle on R1's too. The steeper the bar angle, the more agressive the bite is.
R1's don't cut it on the lawn, they actually "cut" the lawn with hash marks. R4's will mark wet soft grass too, especially with the FWA engaged. If I wanted a good all around tire, I'd get R4's and if it got really sloppy, chain them up.
Skid loaders have had R4's forever and they tear up grassy areas like nobody's business. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
simonmeridew
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I think the amount of 'turf tearing' is related to the weight of the tractor as well as the type of tire.
I've mowed my lawn with my Ford 8N and loaded Ag tires and a rear mounted 5 foot mower, total probably 3000 lbs or so, for 25 years and almost never tear up any lawn; the only time would be when I steer tight using brakes--the skidding tire tears the sod up a little. You will find that really wet lawn will get marked with the chevron ribs but I shouldn't be on the lawn anyway with it so wet.
I drove out on my lawn this Fall with my Kubota L4400, with loaded tires, FEL and Farmi winch, probably weighs 5500 lbs and really layed some treads on the wet spots of the lawn--wet weather. Not a good idea.
My recommendation, Ag tires you want "Traction" for a "Tractor" and that's what Ag tires give you.
I've mowed my lawn with my Ford 8N and loaded Ag tires and a rear mounted 5 foot mower, total probably 3000 lbs or so, for 25 years and almost never tear up any lawn; the only time would be when I steer tight using brakes--the skidding tire tears the sod up a little. You will find that really wet lawn will get marked with the chevron ribs but I shouldn't be on the lawn anyway with it so wet.
I drove out on my lawn this Fall with my Kubota L4400, with loaded tires, FEL and Farmi winch, probably weighs 5500 lbs and really layed some treads on the wet spots of the lawn--wet weather. Not a good idea.
My recommendation, Ag tires you want "Traction" for a "Tractor" and that's what Ag tires give you.
Big_Cajun
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Can't go wrong with the Ag tires. Sounds like they would fit your situation well.
BC
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Ok i am officially a tractor owner! it is the SHIZZLE! I havent been on here since i have been riding around on the tractor! and showing all the neighbors and making them a dark shade of envious green! I stuck with the ag's and glad i did... its pretty mushy out there and i would have done a bunch of spinning! I will post pics when i get a chance... thanks for all the advice...
