Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !

   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !
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Feeling Blue

The ability to continue to grow over winter is a neat trick for a plant, maybe one that could be turned to advantage one day. With help from the internet I found out that a few trials were going on to see if the growth of Crassula could be halted, or at least reduced, by introducing dye to the water to prevent the underwater leaves from absorbing much sunlight.

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I tracked down the company producing this and for 50 pounds (75$) bought enough for at least one years treatment. It is a food grade dye that is similar to that used to color water features in places like golf courses. A reference sample is taken when the dye first goes in, then each month or two you take another sample and compare it with the original. This allows more to be added to make up for what has been diluted away by rainfall or degraded by sunlight. The water ends up a very deep blue.

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At first I was very wary handling the dye so as not to get it on my skin. It comes as a fine powder in water soluble bags. As long as you wear gloves and place it gently in the water, it is easy to work with.

Last time I topped up, I wondered what would happen if I threw the bag of dye onto the surface of the Crassula, instead of into the water. The answer was nothing much as far as the weed was concerned. As soon as the rain came it washed off into the water, leaving the surface green again.

The effect on me and our house was more noticeable, though not immediately. That night as I cleaned my teeth, my wife pointed to the basin and in it were streaks of dark blue dye. My hands were clean but my forhead was fringed in blue. I rubbed my hair and my hands were now blue too. I guess some of the powder had come out of the bag into my hair, as I had foolishly thrown the bag overhand to reach further into the pond. With a shower and a good scrub I thought that it was gone and that would be the end of it. Not so, little traces of blue kept popping up all over the place for days and weeks afterwards. It is only noticable when the surface gets wet. Only this week my wife pointed out a small memento on the side of the door that refuses to wipe clean, I will have to sand it out. Oops.

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In the long term I may be able to replicate the effect of reducing light in a more sustainable way by introducing some bottom feeding fish to stir up the mud and increase turbidity. Cloudy water may not look as pretty as clear blue, but it's a better prospect than me spending more time in the dog house.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #282  
In the long term I may be able to replicate the effect of reducing light in a more sustainable way by introducing some bottom feeding fish to stir up the mud and increase turbidity.

Here in the US we have a fresh water fish called the Blue Gill. It may be appropriate even before you stop using the dye. :laughing:
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !
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June 2015

Our "Rural Land Register" map has just been updated. This now shows the pond to be just over half an acre, slightly larger than I first thought. Maybe that is why it is taking me so long to evict the alien. More likely it is that I've been spending too much time on TBN when I should have been sorting out the Crassula.

Today I have about two thirds clear. Doesn't look too bad when you look from the west side.


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When you look from the other side, you can see there is still a fair bit to do with the remaining third.

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If anything, the Crassula in this part has grown thicker than ever this year.

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Getting this out may be fun as here the pond is at it's deepest - and I have no boat.
At least the wasps have moved out.

I still intend to try and drag it away. Could be time for some tractor action.:)



The End

Well, that's the end of the story, or at least the historical time warp. We are back into real time.

I can take pictures to show future progress if anyone is still interested.


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   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #285  
Perhaps you have a friend with a swimming pool that has a ph test kit for the water. That would allow you to compare acid levels in the two ponds, and perhaps gain some insight on your theory.

Please do keep us updated, Eric.

I'd especially like to see underwater shots of you in SCUBA gear wielding your scythe :laughing:
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #286  
Eric,

For $10 to $20 you should be able to get a nice PH and NPK test kit from ac aquarium shop. I have no idea how that compares to a pool supply store. When I ran planted aquariums, I learned that an imbalance of NPK and high light levels can drive undesirable plant growth. And a balance of carbon, NPK and light can really drive plant growth. Pretty hard to control light on a half acre pond but eliminating light for three days would wipe out certain undesirable algae in aquarium. Good luck. Hope the crassula doesn't come back to where you have removed it.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #287  
Eric,

A quick check of a couple of aquarium websites. The bad news is the stuff is almost unkillable. It tolerates a wide range of water conditions. Altering PH, carbon, NPK will likely be ineffective. There was a reference that it is light dependent. The good news, if it good, is it controlled in aquaria by pinching off stems. In other words, your scythe is the recommended method of control. But it is not eradication. Good luck.
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #288  
Eric,

For $10 to $20 you should be able to get a nice PH and NPK test kit from ac aquarium shop. I have no idea how that compares to a pool supply store. When I ran planted aquariums, I learned that an imbalance of NPK and high light levels can drive undesirable plant growth. And a balance of carbon, NPK and light can really drive plant growth. Pretty hard to control light on a half acre pond but eliminating light for three days would wipe out certain undesirable algae in aquarium. Good luck. Hope the crassula doesn't come back to where you have removed it.

Yes, I would chemically test the pond, especially for ph. (although as a chemist, my tendency is to chem test everything) I would guess that something is out of whack, and could be corrected, resulting in reduced plant growth. Or you could find the ideal ph for the crassula, and then knock the pond ph out of that range.

Failing in chemical warfare, the most exciting option would be to blast the stuff loose with explosives, then drag it out. The moderately exciting option is to rig a big, or several, grappling hooks, attach them to the tractor, and pull. The boring option is to continue by hand.

Good luck!
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #289  
Something like a giant, weighted draw knife pulled across the pond bottom by a cable attached to your tractor draw bar.

Position the knife on the pond bank, shoot an arrow with a lead line across the pond, use the lead line to pull the cable across.

Underwater sickle bar mower? :D Snorkel equipped Army surplus tank? :rolleyes:
 
   / Alien Invasion - I want my pond back ! #290  
What a nightmare! Sorry about your situation.
It has been a entertaining read though.
Thanks for putting this up.
I've got nothing to suggest.
 

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